BOTTOM LINE: A VERY PROFITABLE BUSINESS VENTURE FOR THE FOUNDERS: I checked out the non-profit tax returns on this organization (Form 990) to see how legit they are. I have experience running non-profits, so knew a bit what to look for. If you read the tax form carefully, what you find out is this:
The non-profit corp of Congressional Youth Leadership Council, which runs the National Youth Leadership Forum as well as the Junior Nat'l Young Leaders Conference was started by the team of Richard Rossi and Barbara Harris who also started (in the same year) a for-profit corp called Envision EMI, LLC. It just so happens that Envision has the exclusive contract with CYLC to run all their programs. On the 2006 tax form, the compensation paid to Envision by CYLC exceeded 18 MILLION dollars (from a total revenue of CYLC of over $56 million).
As it stated on the CYLC tax form, "all full-time staff working on the account of CYLC are employees of Envision. CYLC pays Envision for payroll and related costs as well as management and marketing fees."
To me, that arrangement makes it clear that this program continues to be run for the purposes of profit to the founders and current operators. I'd be very curious about the founders' relationships with the board members of the non-profit entity.
I attended this program in the spring of 2006, and unfortunately I have to say that it was a waste of time and money. (It also caused a significant setback in my schoolwork upon returning home.) They may have changed, but this is what I experienced...
I went to NYLC under the assumption that I was nominated by one of my teachers. The sure do play it up to be an honor. I thought it would look great on a college application and that I would learn something valuable, but that wasn't the case.
The thousand or so dollars we spent for my "tuition" at NYLC was poorly returned in what I got out of the program.
The worst experience was what should have been the most rewarding: meeting with our state representatives. The NYCL program supposedly made arrangements for another student and I to meet with one of the personnel at Arlen Specter's office.
The man we were supposed to meet brushed us aside, and we spent the next half hour speaking with a sympathetic secretary before leaving.
To any student thinking about joining this program, I seriously think you would do well to avoid NYLC. It's expensive, it's quite possibly a scam, and colleges don't really look at it with much enthusiasm.
If you chose to go in order to better yourself and to learn more about our government, you will very likely be one in a bunch of other students who don't care about learning. My roommates were three girls who thought we were there to party, bringing random guys in our room, and only one person I talked to had read the documents we were given.
To any parents reading this, NYLC will not tell you that your student will, at times, be left to wander the DC area unsupervised. Our "teachers" trusted us to get to meetings on our own, but some of the other students ditched and wandered off in search of something fun to do. That's not only unsafe, but it's a waste of your money.
I've been to DC before with my family, and I had more time to enjoy and learn about the monuments with them than I did with NYLC. It was a "look and go" experience--they packed our schedules so tightly that we had to be hustled through these sites. We walked halfway to the Lincoln Memorial before our leader told us we had to turn around to make it back in time for the bus.
The bottom line is that, unfortunately, this program just isn't worth it. I think students should invest more time in a long-term (and more impressive) learning experience to add to their college applications.
TEACHERS need to be made aware of this scam. They are the ones that the company targets to invite our children. Envision sends them all kinds of materials to convince them that this is a great opportunity and an honor - Teachers BEWARE! Don't let them use you to sell their product!84027
If anyone is looking for proof positive that this is definitely a scam, I've got it. Today my 16 yr old son received the congratulatory packet in the mail, telling him what an honour it is to be chosen for his academic & leadership achievements. Unfortunately, despite being a very intelligent child, my son has had a very rough year & is currently at risk of failing the 10th grade. And his freshman year was a bit of a struggle too. So, unless they're basing this "nomination" on his performance in middle school (which was 2 years ago now), they are completely full of crap!
I love my son & know the sort of academic achievement he IS capable of & might even be taken in by this, if he were living up to potential right now, but that is not the case. 82620
Basic Organization Information CONGRESSIONAL YOUTH LEADERSHIP COUNCIL
Physical Address: Rockville, MD 20850 EIN: 52-1389316 Web URL: www.cylc.org NTEE Category: O Youth Development O50 (Youth Development Programs) Year Founded: 1985 Ruling Year: 1985 Login or register to see this organization's full address, contact information, and more!
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I have posted this information so that those of you who need the EIN number to try and deduct child care costs can do so. Our daughter received the "Nomination Packet" and after talking with a family that participated the year before we opted NOT to take part in this. 76906
My daughter attended the DC and Boston conferences. We are sending her back to the Florida State conference. She had a great time, came home full of information and ideas, was exposed to skills that she needs to develop, and was able to talk about history and leadership skills. The first year, we had her teach a four week Sunday School course on leadership skills, and she did a great job. She used the skills in Girl Scouts, school and church. She gets a chance to be away from us and her teachers, but with adequate supervision. They also work HARD. This is not a play around camp, but a strong academic and skills based conference. I have reviewed their materials and have been quite impressed each year. I look them over when planning Girl Scout sessions.
Yes, it is costly, but while we can pay for it, I think we are getting something neither I nor her community can provide her.56850
NOT SAFE FOR CHILDREN WITH FOOD ALLERGIES...not at all a safe venture for any child with food allergies! the people at this conference will claim that they can deal with food allergies, NOT TRUE...they have NO KNOWLEDGE of even how to use an epipen, there is no overnight nurse, plus the vending machine where the kids sleep is filled with peanut candy.....since they are not even allowed to administer a bandaid and something happens to your child outside of the 2 hours the nurse is there in the early evening just pray that nothing serious happens...when i spoke to the girl in the special needs department, she took a week and a half to call me back, she didn't even know the name of the hospital my child would be sent to in case of an emergency in the middle of the night....for pre-existing condition children, stay away from this program..they say its supervised, sure...by who? don't be swayed by the bs here..for the money they charge, an overnight nurse should be expected......55397
Recently their BBB rating improved to B - previously it was F. Read my full review here: http://community.greatschools.org/q-and-a/163078/does-anyone-know-anything-about-the-junior-national-young-leaders-conference
Now the organization will send a great looking letter which misleads you into thinking that it is run by or has the endorsement of the US Congress or US Government. The price tag's of near $1900 would give a hint to parents. If not the availability of sessions every week gives a hint. They try to make it appear that the nomination is too hard to receive. We have already congratulated my son and given him a sense of achievement by the time we figure out the whole thing is a marketing ploy.
Now it seems like they are employing paid forum posters to post great comments saying "my daughter went there and it is a life time of experience..." and so on. My guess is in many cases the choice of words suggest a paid forum poster.37518
i recieved the letter also i no im smart ppl were excited for me so i am raising money to go by saling things and taking donations i dont think i will raise the $1,540 dollars they are chrging that does not include lunch or the travel fees so this do seem like a scam...but im not sure i went on a college trip to about 5 or six colleges in 4 differnt states and it was cheaper then that it was only 600 dollars which paid for dinner and all hotel fees also travel and everything...also i just left washington dc two weeks ago with my church for the national inspirational youth convention for 4 nights and it paid for everything besides food it was only $350...so whats up with the national young leaders conference....37516
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