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Do you think students should have to pass a high school exit exam in order to graduate?


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lisaedit October 6, 2008


Twenty-six states have a high school exit exam or have plans to put one in place. Do you think these tests are a good thing? What about for special needs students? Should they be required to pass in order to get a diploma?

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odachimaster November 1, 2008


Do you think these young adults are not getting real world experiences in school with the mix of other young adults; to their totally different teachers and their methods. Along with their parents on them about responsibility. If, they even have parents or that their parents even should be parents. Like I said in another post if all my child's faults are swearing and tattoo's I am so Blessed/Happy. We as parents have to realize that all the indoctrination we do it is still and will always be Their final decision. If, it is not what you like so be it. But look at the whole person I believe you will see a wonderful incredible young women/man

No to Exit Examines. They have passed First Stage of Life that is more then an exit exam could ever be.

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trooper November 1, 2008


I think the high school experience is huge. When students exit their diploma should mean they have the skills to work - or continue on in higher education. Minimally they need to be able to demonstrate a fundamental knowledge of math, english, biology, and history, necessary to navigate life and to be a productive citizen. People are turned down or lose jobs all the time because they lack the ability to demonstrate and preform basic skills in these areas. Many students go on to college end up taking loads of remedial work. The fact is - a large number of students are not prepared. They deserve better than that! We should not be handing over diplomas until we have successfully educated these students.

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odachimaster November 1, 2008


High school is there to assist a student to be able to fundamentally help them function in today's society. but the bottom line is ultimately the students decision on whether they want to learn.1. School administration is charged with ensuring a Safe and A Learning Environment experience. 2. teachers are to enhance that theme of learning environment.3. It is up to the student to either embrace it or not.
Today if we have ideal situation #1 & 2 is a God-sent and 3. is YEAH!!! A lot of students today have Life experience way before they should it is thrust upon them.(divorce,nasty divorce, drugs and spirits ect...)
A student today needs to make decisions about college in 7th grade so they can take the classes needed to prepare for high school which prepares them for College curriculum.
They need No other Tests. They are Tested daily by just waking up in the morning and saying I am committed to learning.

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trooper November 1, 2008


The School System is a Public Agency. Essentially the employees are public servants - they are there to serve the public. When the job is not being done - up to par - our employees need to know. Our taxes pay their salaries!
A High School Diploma states that you have completed the necessary requirements to earn that degree. An exit exam can be part of that. These exams are not that difficult. A student only has to get a passing score. Schools are there to educate. Teachers are there to teach.. It is not an easy job I agree. But - that is the job. Students must do their part as well. Diplomas are earned - not given.
Although it is desirable to have college goals early on - that is not always an option for students.
We cannot send students out on the street who haven't gotten it. If they are unemployable - guess what happens?? Students need to be in some system - GED - NIght School - Military - Voc-Tec - College Prep -someplace that keeps them plugged in until they reach exiting goals!
We must think about the future for these students. They have to compete in a global economy, with individuals from all over the world competing for jobs !

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NYCEducator November 1, 2008


New York State already has a regents system with required exams. We consistently over-test these students! If New York wants to have exit exams, no regents exams. Why both?

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NYCEducator November 1, 2008


NYS high school students must pass Regents examinations as follows:

· Comprehensive English;

· Global History and Geography;

· United States History and Government;

· One (1) in Mathematics (Mathematics A , Mathematics B, Integrated Algebra, Geometry, or Algebra 2/Trigonometry); and

· One (1) in Science.

Don't these constitute exit exams?

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alfonso56 November 1, 2008


yes, new york state has regents exams, but new york state has lower the grading scores, to meet so to make
others happy, saying that a score of 65 is now a grade D, which was a grade E or F, do you think, a top diploma, such as the regents diploma, the grades should be lowered, to sub standards to meet the needs
of others, or to allow students get by, to raise the graduation numbers, but lower the qualifications of our kids, and later send them, in the work or college world, and find them disappointed, because they can't,
count or comprehend, what they should already know, and when they go to college and take entrance exams,they fail very badly, and later stay at home, with their family's, doing nothing but eating and watching Tv, and listening to their vogue music, this is not success, but failure across the board, that is why
were now behind other country's, in most area's that we
were the overall leaders, and that is why, in most of the top jobs, they are being run by those from other countries, and we say, these are the leaders of tomorrow, but reality says, these kids, won't reach the potential or skills to be our leaders, because many are'nt reaching their 20th birthday or sooner, because of death or jail or lack of knowledge, many work at the fast food area's, and don't make it there, and can't count without a calculator, and don't want to listen, to their elders, saying their talking old school or old traditions, they need much prayer and more school and parent contacts, and not just letters, direct communication, also student communication, also less
placing students on medications and placing them, in special education without direct help, before it reaches
this point, we need, more community involvement, we all need to work together, to raise our villiage, our kids, are our kids together, raising our villiage. Mr. Murray
s

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NYCEducator November 1, 2008


I was responding to the question of an exit exam. How are the regents exams NOT exit exams?

NCLB has schools repeatedly and unneccesarily testing and retesting the students.When are they truly able to learn throughout the year when every 3 weeks they are taking some kind of "assessment'?

I'm the divorced mother of 3 sons. One has graduated from college, another in in college and the third is attending public school.

I had full faith in the public school system, as long as I, the parent, do MY job.

I'm only saying that the state should decide WHICH test is to be used. Why so many?

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odachimaster November 1, 2008


The 2007 Graduating class @ My sons school had 145 graduate and in the principals speech he admitted a couple should not have but passed them anyway.
Out of that class 40 students had a GPA of 4.0 or better 77 had a GPA of 3.0-3.9 and 28 had a GPA of 1.2 - 3.0 Now 49% of the class took the SAT none took the ACT. So, 72 Seniors took the SAT Best guess 20 had
4.0 or better 39 had 3.0- 3.9 GPA and worst case 13 had 1.2-3.0 GPA I would say the top tier was more then 20 students but this is a fair assessment.
The 2007 Average SAT score for this school was 967
What does this tell you 3/4 of this graduating class would not pass an exit exam 108 should not pass yet they have a 4.0 GPA
Yes if they cannot get the job done get rid of them that is what they do in Real Life. We are short teachers now. The National average was 1017 for 2007
this School was 50 points under the National Average
My son was LD and he helped out by more then 500 points his GPA was 3.1
That is why I believe if we are teaching testing Start teaching SAT and ACT set a bar for that and if they can not make a certain number ok do not give them a diploma give them a GED otherwise these kids can continue in High School until their 21 years old and that is when they age out.

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trooper November 2, 2008


The Board of Ed is funded by your tax dollar. I am aware of large class sizes. Teachers are over worked and underpaid - and often under appreciated. The answer to these problems is not to turn out an inferior product. What is the purpose of an education if it does not adeqeuately prepare you to do something? The problem is systemic. It is not just about the teachers.
Yet, the question being addressed is the exams. Exams are an indicator - a measurement - of how much learning is going on. It indicates a student's and a school's perfromance. I sense this wouldn't even be an issue - if the students could pass them. Another point to remember, is that students have numerous opportunities to retake these tests - years before they graduate. It is not a one shot deal!



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