Twenty-six states have a high school exit exam or have plans to put one in place. Do you think these tests are a good thing? What about for special needs students? Should they be required to pass in order to get a diploma?
I'm single and took the exit exam back in 1996. Many people in my class did well. Some didn't. We were all disabled. I didn't do well at all. I barely passed. After that, examiner. I felt like the person was teasing and making fun of me. So I was stuck in high school intill I passed. I eventually passed. But it was down to the wire...After I graduated I felt relieved it was over. Still I felt like a failer. :( I failed at least several times. First time it was, it was for talking. Then got blamed for look at some elses paper. Then the time ran out. I had to remember what I wrote before. I'm learning impaired. Lot of people like me(Disabled). Have major issues with tests..So I say get rid of the "Exit Exam". I know this was in 2008 and I'm late...But have compassion on those kids. We already have tests for the students they do year around. Testing them for Math, reading, vocab and etc. Shouldn't be just give them there deploma. That's it...I'll be removing myself from this website just wanted to say my peace.83037
a proficiency test measures weather you can do the required work, it doesnt always count towards your grades or your graduation, an exit exam is averages whith your grades to determine weather you graduated15394
To sammy06 I am feeling very sad for you and your situtation but the fact is YOU and everyone trying to graduate SHOULD be able to pass a graduation test. The school and your parents failed you and all students who are unable to pass a final test to graduate. It is a sad comentary on us all when a student has made it all the way to senior in high school and yet can't pass a test of basic skills and graduate!! I truly wish you the best in life for you and hope you strive to continue your education with GED classes and do get a high school degree. However this in no way changes my view that EVERYONE should have to pass a test to graduate!!15395
I have had children graduate in the 80's 90's & 10's All have not been taught even how to balance a check book or even write a check. Now to me that is real world stuff I can understand someone take advance math classes as they want to go on to college in general. These young adults with all this math can not even count back change at the local store. What happened to real world stuff????????? Has anyone honestly used algebra in their work place that it is a must have. I doubt it. What happened to classes like Family Living (I am not sure if that was what it was called) You learned everything from budgeting using simply math to being married to children the cost of all above. Housing how much payment should be to your income to finding the best interest rates ect. Should be mandatory for the 9th grade and the 12 grade A 9th grader it opens their eyes and scarce the ...... out of them and 12th grade can say thank you very much.
While I truly appreciate your points, sammy06, the test not only tests individual students but also the school's teaching. If a school is not teaching you, you have good reason to complain--and loudly!
I may be an old fuddy-duddy but it seems to me more important that students learn what they need to succeed in the world than to enjoy their senior year. And I put my money where my mouth is, I am a teacher who tells my high school students that I am always available to tutor to help pass exit exams. My reason: I want to make sure that all my kids can succeed not just on the tests but in life.15397
I THINK ITS REALLY DUMB TO PUT A TEST LIKE THIS IN A HIGH SCHOOLS, MY REASONS ARE BEING ,WHY SHOULD A TEST DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT UR GOING TO GRADUATE HIGH SCHOOL OR HOW SMART YOU ARE... THIS EXIT EXAM WILL ONLY PUT STRESS ON STUDENTS; SOME WILL JUST GIVE UP ON SCHOOL BECAUSE THEY FEEL THAT THEY CAN NOT PASS IT... THESE STUDENTS WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH 12 YEARS OF SCHOOL AND TO FIND OUT THEY CANT GRADUATE WITH THIER CLASS DUE TO SOME STUPID TEST...THE REASON I FEEL SO STRONGLY ABOUT THIS TEST IS BECAUSE I AM A YOUNG MOM WHO STRUGGLED WITH THIS TEST . AND I FELT A WHOLE ALOT OF STRESS BECAUSE I COULD NOT PASS THIS TEST NOR COULD I GRADUATE WITH MY CLASS. I WORKED MY BUTT OFF IN SCHOOL JUST TO BE DISAPPOINTED IN THE END. AND TO BE HONEST THIS TEST RUINED MY SENIOR YEAR BECAUSE I COULDNT ENJOY MYSELF WITH MY FRIENDS BECAUSE I HAD TO WORRY ABOUT PASSING THIS TEST AND GRADUATING ON TIME. BUT YET I AM STILL A STUDENT WHO STRUGGLES WITH THIS TEST AND HAVE NOT PASSED IT YET15398
Our school have always had to take test we called them proficiency test one for reading, Math, and English. Most kids passed the Reading in their freshmen year and the other two were the ones that most kids seemed to have problems with. the only difference is that the level at which kids are learning is higher. I am really not sure what the difference between the EXIT EXAM is and the PROFICIENCY TEST! Can anyone aswer that?15399
Every student in every industrialized country besides ours take exams to get from one grade to the next. All of Europe, eastern Europe, Russia, China, India and Japan have a COMPREHENSIVE high school exam to get their baccalaureate high school diploma. They don't have high school sports, they just have school. Just to go from grade to grade, they have an exam. You don't pass and you don't go to the next grade. In high school, they have national curriculums and everyone takes physics, chemistry, biology, algebra, trigonometry, and calculus. Our kids stressed out? Wait until they can't land a job. We have the lowest rate of high school graduates entering college of any industrialized country. Further, because we don't require advanced math in high school, we have fewer people entering college and graduating with technical degrees in the sciences including engineering. Bottom line for any economy is that innovation drives real GDP economic growth. If you don't believe that, look at the US auto industry. See much innovation there? Lets take out a good chunk of the economy because they didn't keep up with the times. We have to import practically all of our technical people via H1B visas because we can't produce the technical people the US needs. And it all comes down to what is not going on in high school. If you didn't believe it was a global economy a few months ago, you probably do now. Our kids are going to compete for jobs in the global marketplace via technology with more educated kids in other countries, and we certainly will come up short. I don't believe this will change in my lifetime, but I certainly hope Obama does something, given he's been involved in education in the past. So, a plain old variety US high school exit exam - no, I don't think so. NOT GOOD ENOUGH! The international baccalaureate exam on the same page as our international peers? most definitely YES! How do we do that? 1.National curriculum that includes all the math, science and humanities of our international peers, 2. Make the international baccalaureate (IB) exam available at every public high school now and make it mandatory in 5 years (so each student can get a high school diploma US style, or they can get the IB, but all must take the IB test) 3. make every sports competition participation day be matched by an equivalent academic competition participation day. Can you imagine a stadium full of people watching a forensics/debate competitions or a math competition under Friday night lights? What a thought, but that's what we need.
Regarding special needs students, they should be exempt from testing to obtain a diploma. High schools should address that issue, and many do not.
God bless our educational system and find the leaders to change it.15400
Dear High School Parents Across America! this note is for you and if you live in NJ I have links at the bottom.
Please ...if you have children in High School 9th-12th please consider voting YES! To High School Exit Exams! I've learned the hard way that your High School is not held responsible for the students who can't pass the state tests for entrance into college for basic english or math foundations for college placement!
Please if you did not know this, can you call your local community and state colleges to find out if they offer remedial language-literacy-english and math classes.
Does it surprise you that even Dartmouth offers a full year remedial english foundations course. My children go to local community colleges. But this Dartmouth fact showcases how bad its become!
If you have a child with a weakness in literacy - humanities - math - sciences - be prepared to pay - student gets no credit if they fail the state college placement tests.
I truly pray with all my heart that if you have children now in 9th-12th go to the Board of Education meetings, find out what they are doing about this coming graduating class! Ask now to make sure someone from the High School cirr speaks to the state to find out what the kids are not being taught and why they are failing after graduating High Shcool.
We need to make sure our children are employable! We voted in the BOE. Please Vote YES that thru 2015 the BOE and High School Administrators must adjust their cirr so students can pass the appropriate tests to insure college placement or workforce employability.
My 10th grader will graduate college (I pray) in 2014! I need to get on the BOE now so by 12th grade they have hopefully adjusted the cirr so she can pass the state tests and if not let her stay another year so she can because they will be changing to teach them what they need to know!
I'll let you know how I make out next at our BOE meeting about this question. I've already sent to our Suptendent's office a whole slew of information on 21st century skills and what will the school be doing about inclusion for same! Now?
NCLB insures kids born in 2005-2006 they will have a good education that kids born in 1985 until 2014 did not get the same!
How does that make those with High School students feel? And we let the BOE's do this to our High Schools - I don't know how to change it other than state the current situation and what will they do to fix it?
Please help your children by insisting your BOE and High School Administration step up to the plate and give our kids what they need to graduate successfully and be proud citizens knowing we did our best and they did their best! Thank You. PS I'm copying my Superintendnet on this comment and I hope you don't mind the length - its very important if you don't know. If you do know and have had success with your high school changing can you please share how to help me? Thank You.
http://www.nj.com/starledger/stories/index.ssf?/base/news-11/1225776493109140.xml&coll=1 SEE ON nj.COM - SEARCH EDUCATION AUTHOR JOHN MOONEY TO READ HIS ARTICLE FROM 11/04/08: N.J. schools to show slight rise in failing to meet federal target Tuesday, November 04, 2008, John Mooney, Star Ledger Staff
http://www.state.nj.us/education/news/2008/1103ayp.htm For More Information Contact the Public Information Office: Richard Vespucci Kathryn Forsyth, Director 609-292-1126 For Release: November 3, 2008 15401
donnalynn, You make some excellent points! Basic survival skills are essential. The book knowledge is of no value if you do not know how to apply it to real life - or if you lack the basic interpersonal skills to have meaningful relationships. Much of what you mention refers to issues of responsibility, values, and esteem. I would love to see schools place equal emphasis on the skills once taught in Home economics, Shop, and Physical Education. Perhaps a better indicator of readiness to graduate would include assessments in these areas as well as the testing in the academic areas. It is important to mention that the exit exams only require you to have taken High School English, History, Biology, and Algebra 1. Although diploma requirements include higher level of study in these areas, students attend school to be taught. It is not always easy. But, this is just the beginning of many future challenges our children will face.15402
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