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Irwin Altman Middle School 172

Public | 6-8 | 975 students

 

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Posted April 29, 2014

school is very good specially the SP teacher get more involve in the student. student have first time common core and codex but thank to ela teacher she makes so easy.
—Submitted by a parent


Posted February 25, 2014

This school has a lot of extra classes to participate in like cooking,music,vocal,wood shop ,drama,computers,math games forensics and I haven't see any bullies or have been bullied but the principal should get invoked more and they re the good teachers, bad and extraordinary teachers. I ll miss this school and can't believe I'm graduating.


Posted June 16, 2013

I've been going here since September 2010 (my 6th grade year) and it has an absolute bullying problem. The dean in charge of helping, does not do his job. I've tried the principal and even the assisstant principal but none of them had helped either. Only two people are amazing at helping: A security guard and An 8th grade science teacher. I also don't like how I wasn't placed in Intergrated algebra. My strongest subject is Math and every year in elementary school, I scored a 4 but on the Ela I scored a high 3. This high 3 was one of the reasons I wasn't placed in sp. In seventh and Eighth grade I was placed in special help class "ex:731 or 831". This kind of helped me recieve 90% every marking period but the only thing I really wanted was to be in sp. The 8th grade assisstant principal, told my parents there was this "waitlist". Honestly, they need to switch the standards for sp. People in sp are failing and some non sp students are excelling. 3 months ago I found out I got into a specialized high school. I was ecstatic. A lot of people in my grade got into QHST, Van buren, Bayside and Francis Lewis though. If you want your child to go to an amazing hs pick a better school please!


Posted May 23, 2013

My daughter has attended this school since 6th grade. She has been bullied by another student for all three years. This girl has sent slandering text messages out about my daughter, has disseminated petitions with a list of children that "hate" my daughter, has thrown a shoe in her face, has isolated ny daughter socially on numerous occasions and lastly, tripped her on the senior trip, causing a sprained ankle. The school has been willing to meet with my husband whenever we have asked but has not had one consequence for the bully. They have their anti-bullying campaigns and posters all over the school but do not follow through on anything. Bullying, emotional and physical, seems to be accepted. I have another child in elementary school and I will most likely send her to Our Lady of the Snows for middle school. I don't feel that this school is a safe place for children and am looking forward to the end of the year and getting my daughter out of there.
—Submitted by a parent


Posted April 3, 2013

I think that MS172 is a very fine school. I am in 8th grade, in SP, and teachers really care about us passing our classes and Regents. In Foreign Language, we learn things that are meant to be taught in 10th grade. The SP ELA class is exactly like a 9th grade ELA class. The standard of work we do is really high. The Algebra I teacher is a pro on what he does. He's made us look at math from a different perspective. Social Studies is a breeze, you really learn History. The teachers, most of them, are caring and are there for you. The principal is the person most teachers and students don't like.


Posted February 19, 2013

Terrible school. Lazy teachers that don't teach. Disrespectful students who are so loud that even when teachers are actually teaching. I was in SP which is supposed to be honors and all of this stuff happened. Fights happen a lot and some kids do drugs. As someone said before me the kids do run the school. It didn't prepare me for high school at all.


Posted December 22, 2012

(Present student) First of all the teachers aren't really that great. Throughout my experience, there is about 2 or 3 teachers who will help you understand what you're working on. The rest are lazy, or don't teach The students, I think are the worst thing at this school. They lack respect towards basically everything. Since last year, about 3 fights have broke out, but were stopped quickly. One good thing there is always a security guard somewhere. There is some kids here who do drugs. Don't even get me started on the cleanliness of this school. It's horrid. There are bugs everywhere. The classes are divided into 3 diff. types. Extra help, Regular classes, and SP. I'm in SP and they say we are suppose to move quicker then the other classes but we don't. We should be a month ahead, but we're at the same pace. They also need to take certain students out of SP, who are failing, and replace them with kids from Extra help who have 94 averages. Overall, I would recommend trying to go to another school, such as 266, but if you have to come here, just keep studying and keep your distance from people you're uncomfortable around. Wish you the best of luck.


Posted February 29, 2012

Staff that works there are so unprofessional. I just called to speak to someone about registration and the lady who answered the phone was making fun of me (it was probably my accent) without even realizing that she didn't put me on hold yet. I asked the second person ,who was not polite either, "what is the persons name that answered the phone first?" She told me Ms. Burke. I have them on tape and it is going on YouTube


Posted February 23, 2012

i think this school is great. Im in 6th grade and so far i had a great year. I have a lot of new friends and the teachers are awesome.


Posted December 24, 2011

I transferred my kids out of school. The principal does not know what hes doing, the school environment was ranked a C- by the department of education. This schools environment is terrible, the kids basically run the school and the principal is not very involved in anything. Avoid putting your kids in this school. The old principal was much better.
—Submitted by a parent


Posted May 12, 2010

The kids don't like it because there is no free ride, the teachers are on to them. The teachers don't like it because there is no free ride, the principal is on to them. My son is graduating and all I can say is that my overall experience was quite good. I used to hear stories about the kids getting beat up and drugs and it scared me. I can tell you that there are drugs there but it is not prevalant. Fights happen rarely and are broken up quick. I found some teachers to be helpful and others were quite lazy but you get that in all schools. The principal knows most of the students by name, which is good. The way the general studies courses are picked is arcane and unfair.
—Submitted by a parent


Posted March 28, 2010

Since reading about this school, I expect a good education. I am looking forward to beginning Middle School here.
—Submitted by a student


Posted November 5, 2009

Many people believe that this school is not that great. However, in my perspective I thought it was a great school that taught me many things that I had never learned when I was in Private school. This school sharpened my academic skills. I do not regret my years here. The only reason why people don't like this school is that they might have gotten a bad grade there. Please ignore them since they are actually wrong.
—Submitted by a student


Posted August 1, 2009

As I prepare to go to highschool, I just need to say that this school did nothing to help me. In the end, I had to do it by myself. The years I was there, the teachers were terrible, they never do there jobs. Take my advise, go to private, transfer to louie pastuer, go to the nicer and newer queens teaching school, do what ever it takes to get out.
—Submitted by a student


Posted December 31, 2008

Im a current student at irwin altman middle school 172 and i need to say that its not really a good school.The teachers teach the same thing for about 2 months and the staff is really bad.The students never do what there told because there is no punishment.I think that this school isnt as good as people say it is.
—Submitted by a student


Posted December 24, 2008

A school where the principals leadership has failed. Stats are going down, as evidenced on the school report card, and the experienced teachers are leaving. Be careful.
—Submitted by a parent


Posted July 16, 2008

When I went to that school I had a wonderful experience! It was very diverse, and the learing experience was also very amazing. This school gave me a chance to express myself in many different ways. I hope everyone else thinks so too!
—Submitted by a student


Posted February 27, 2008

M.S.172 is a great school. My son (the oldest) is now in 9th grade and is going through it easily because the teachers in M.S1 72 care about the students future.Now my daughter goest to that school and made the honor roll thanks to all the teachers!
—Submitted by a parent


Posted August 10, 2007

its an amazing school. i graduated from their and i wish i could stay their with my teachers. there very loving and caring
—Submitted by a student


Posted August 5, 2007

I love this school! Ms172 is a very good school, the teachers there are very dedicated to their students and will help them in every way possible. All the teachers there have a very fun and unique way to teach their students in a way that the kids can't wait to go back to school and learn more.
—Submitted by a student


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The Community Rating is the school’s average rating from its community members (e.g., parents, students, and school staff). The highest possible rating is five stars; the lowest is one star.

The test results by subgroup show how the designated group of students is performing in comparison to the general population.
English Language Arts

The state average for English Language Arts was 29% in 2014.

330 students were tested at this school in 2014.

2014

 
 
46%

2013

 
 
40%

2012

 
 
77%
Math

The state average for Math was 38% in 2014.

332 students were tested at this school in 2014.

2014

 
 
58%

2013

 
 
53%

2012

 
 
92%
Scale: % proficient or advanced

About the tests


Beginning in the 2012-2013 school year, the New York State Department of Instruction implemented new assessments designed to be aligned with the Common Core State Standards. The new standards for proficiency in these subjects are higher than in previous years and the percent of students earning a proficient score is expected to be lower as a result of this change. See this letter from New York's Commissioner of Education for more information on these changes.

In 2013-2014 New York used the New York State Assessments to test students in grades 3 through 8 in English language arts and math, and in grades 4 and 8 in Science. At present 2013-14 results are available only for English language arts and math. The tests are standards-based, which means they measure how well students are mastering specific skills defined for each grade by the state of New York. The goal is for 90% of students to meet or exceed grade-level standards on the tests.

Source: New York State Education Department

English Language Arts

The state average for English Language Arts was 29% in 2014.

309 students were tested at this school in 2014.

2014

 
 
47%

2013

 
 
55%

2012

 
 
73%
Math

The state average for Math was 33% in 2014.

312 students were tested at this school in 2014.

2014

 
 
57%

2013

 
 
58%

2012

 
 
92%
Scale: % proficient or advanced

About the tests


Beginning in the 2012-2013 school year, the New York State Department of Instruction implemented new assessments designed to be aligned with the Common Core State Standards. The new standards for proficiency in these subjects are higher than in previous years and the percent of students earning a proficient score is expected to be lower as a result of this change. See this letter from New York's Commissioner of Education for more information on these changes.

In 2013-2014 New York used the New York State Assessments to test students in grades 3 through 8 in English language arts and math, and in grades 4 and 8 in Science. At present 2013-14 results are available only for English language arts and math. The tests are standards-based, which means they measure how well students are mastering specific skills defined for each grade by the state of New York. The goal is for 90% of students to meet or exceed grade-level standards on the tests.

Source: New York State Education Department

English Language Arts

The state average for English Language Arts was 36% in 2014.

308 students were tested at this school in 2014.

2014

 
 
57%

2013

 
 
50%

2012

 
 
66%
Math

The state average for Math was 22% in 2014.

152 students were tested at this school in 2014.

2014

 
 
27%

2013

 
 
52%

2012

 
 
80%
Science

The state average for Science was 69% in 2013.

199 students were tested at this school in 2013.

2013

 
 
77%
Scale: % proficient or advanced

About the tests


Beginning in the 2012-2013 school year, the New York State Department of Instruction implemented new assessments designed to be aligned with the Common Core State Standards. The new standards for proficiency in these subjects are higher than in previous years and the percent of students earning a proficient score is expected to be lower as a result of this change. See this letter from New York's Commissioner of Education for more information on these changes.

In 2013-2014 New York used the New York State Assessments to test students in grades 3 through 8 in English language arts and math, and in grades 4 and 8 in Science. At present 2013-14 results are available only for English language arts and math. The tests are standards-based, which means they measure how well students are mastering specific skills defined for each grade by the state of New York. The goal is for 90% of students to meet or exceed grade-level standards on the tests.

Source: New York State Education Department

In 2009-2010, this school was given a grade of "B" for the middle school level.

About the tests


Progress Report Grades measure the school's contribution to student learning in three areas: School Environment, Student Performance and Student Progress. Schools can receive additional credit for achieving exemplary performance progress among high-needs students. Progress Report Grades range from A to F.

Source: New York City Department of Education

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Student ethnicity

Ethnicity This school State average
Asian or Asian/Pacific Islander 1 59% 9%
Hispanic 2 15% 23%
White 1 15% 48%
Black 2 10% 19%
American Indian/Alaska Native 1 1% 1%
Two or more races 1 0% 1%
Source: NCES, 2011-2012
Source: 2 NYSED, 2011-2012

Student subgroups

  This school District averageState average
Limited English proficient 13%N/A8%
Students eligible for free or reduced-price lunch program 256%N/A43%
Source: 1 NYSED, 2011-2012
Source: 2 NCES, 2011-2012

Teacher experience

  This school District averageState average
Fewer than 3 years experience 15%N/A5%
Source: NYSED, 2011-2012

Teacher education levels

  This school District averageState average
Master's degree and above 55%N/A39%
Source: NYSED, 2011-2012

Teacher credentials

  This school District averageState average
Teachers with no valid teaching certificate 0%N/A0%
Source: NYSED, 2011-2012
The NYC Department of Education asked parents, teachers and students about their school's learning environment. Results provide insight into school climate, such as whether the school is academically rigorous, safe, communicative and collaborative. Learn more

The information captured by the survey is designed to support a dialogue among all members of the school community about how to make the school a better place to learn. An overall category score is calculated for each respondent group (parents, teachers, or students) by averaging the scores of the questions within that survey category.

Category scores for each of the respondent groups are then combined to form overall category scores. Alongside the results for each school are the aggregated results across all NYC public schools, which are provided as a basis for comparisons.

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Based on 1589 responses

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A safe and respectful environmentWhat's this?

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This school
7.5
out of 10
 
City average
8.0
out of 10
 

Parents

This school

 
7.9
 

City average

 
8.4
 

Students

This school

 
6.8
 

City average

 
7.2
 

Teachers

This school

 
7.7
 

City average

 
8.0
 
Clear, useful communication about educational goalsWhat's this?

This score measures whether parents, students and teachers feel that the school provides information about the school's educational goals and offers appropriate feedback on each student's learning outcome.

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This school
7.0
out of 10
 
City average
8.1
out of 10
 

Parents

This school

 
8.0
 

City average

 
8.5
 

Students

This school

 
7.0
 

City average

 
7.8
 

Teachers

This school

 
6.0
 

City average

 
7.8
 
Strong parent, teacher and student engagementWhat's this?

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This school
6.9
out of 10
 
City average
7.8
out of 10
 

Parents

This school

 
7.6
 

City average

 
8.1
 

Students

This school

 
6.6
 

City average

 
7.2
 

Teachers

This school

 
6.6
 

City average

 
7.8
 
High academic expectations for all studentsWhat's this?

This score measures how well parents, students and teachers feel that the school develops rigorous and meaningful academic goals that encourage students to do their best.

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This school
7.7
out of 10
 
City average
8.2
out of 10
 

Parents

This school

 
8.0
 

City average

 
8.3
 

Students

This school

 
7.8
 

City average

 
8.1
 

Teachers

This school

 
7.3
 

City average

 
8.1
 

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 RespondentsResponse rate
Parents61375%
Students94798%
Teachers2949%

12012-2013 New York City Department of Education School Survey

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81-14 257th St
Floral Park, NY 11004
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