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P.S. 165 Robert E Simon

Public | K-8 | 808 students

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4 stars

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Posted September 29, 2010

This school has established a well known Dual Language Program.
—Submitted by a parent


Posted September 29, 2010

New school for my 3rd grader and must say I love the email communication from Mr. Duran and my child's teacher's constant communication. It's an indication that they care for our children and their education and success.
—Submitted by a parent


Posted September 27, 2010

My eldest was at 165 in the Dual Language G&T from 2nd grade on and is now at MS54 Delta. My other two children are also at 165, one in G&T and the other in general mono-lingual. Both are doing rather well. Even though G&T has been phased out, we still sent our youngest to 165. Parental involvement has been improving slowly, which is all the more reason for involved neighborhood parents to send their children to the school. Test scores for both Math and English Language Arts have also improved since we started at the school in 2005. Although the principal has changed recently, our experience with the teachers has been exceptional and one of the main reasons why we have stayed. Our children have excelled both academically and socially.
—Submitted by a parent


Posted September 27, 2010

My children have extremely dedicated teachers. They have a good balance between academics and other activities.
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Posted June 21, 2008

My son has been in the dual language G&T class for 4 years now. I have mixed feelings about his experience there. First, the principal, Linda Chen, is wonderful. She is very warm, attentive, responsive, and her genuine love for the children is clear. She worked diligently to preserve a struggling G&T program, creating bridged classes so that too small classrooms would not have to close. Second, my son has had a couple of truly fantastic teachers, namely Lilly Barrett and Ms. Chanlatte. They are gifted teachers. The negatives include pockets of mediocrity in the quality of teaching. In one grade he had a fabulous experience with his math teacher, but this year has been awful. He was bored and the math teacher seemed to stop teaching once they had taken the statewide math test. My son has also felt unheard at times when he complained about other students being aggressive.
—Submitted by a parent


Posted February 22, 2007

My daughter has been in the Gifted & Talented, Dual Language program since kindergarten. She absolutly loves it. I find that the curriculum is innovative and creative. She is now in the 3rd grade and has been able to participate in a extra language class in which she has also learned french. Other students learned chinese as well. Huge level of parent involvement. As a working mother i am not able to be as involved but i am able to get great information regarding school activities and changes via the parent coordinator, Principal & Vice Principal. I have to say that school safety & security has improved over the last three years.
—Submitted by a parent


Posted September 8, 2004

PS165 is a great school, my son has been going there since Kindergarten. The teachers has always been helpful especially Stephanie Lucas, Lilly Barrett and Mr. Pergament. We hope that this year will be another success. School safety and security is a major concern of ours.
—Submitted by a parent


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The test results by subgroup show how the designated group of students is performing in comparison to the general population.
English Language Arts

The state average for English Language Arts was 56% in 2012.

93 students were tested at this school in 2012.

2012

 
 
47%

2011

 
 
50%
Math

The state average for Math was 61% in 2012.

96 students were tested at this school in 2012.

2012

 
 
57%

2011

 
 
45%
Scale: % proficient or advanced

About the tests


In 2011-2012 New York used the New York State Assessments to test students in grades 3 through 8 in English language arts and math, and in grades 4 and 8 in science. The results for English language arts and math are displayed on GreatSchools profiles and the science results will be added when they are released in the Fall of 2013. The tests are standards-based, which means they measure how well students are mastering specific skills defined for each grade by the state of New York. The goal is for 90% of students to meet or exceed grade-level standards on the tests.

See New York's state standards

Source: New York State Education Department

English Language Arts

The state average for English Language Arts was 59% in 2012.

97 students were tested at this school in 2012.

2012

 
 
57%

2011

 
 
53%
Math

The state average for Math was 69% in 2012.

102 students were tested at this school in 2012.

2012

 
 
72%

2011

 
 
65%
Science

The state average for Science was 88% in 2011.

94 students were tested at this school in 2011.

2011

 
 
87%
Scale: % proficient or advanced

About the tests


In 2011-2012 New York used the New York State Assessments to test students in grades 3 through 8 in English language arts and math, and in grades 4 and 8 in science. The results for English language arts and math are displayed on GreatSchools profiles and the science results will be added when they are released in the Fall of 2013. The tests are standards-based, which means they measure how well students are mastering specific skills defined for each grade by the state of New York. The goal is for 90% of students to meet or exceed grade-level standards on the tests.

See New York's state standards

Source: New York State Education Department

English Language Arts

The state average for English Language Arts was 58% in 2012.

102 students were tested at this school in 2012.

2012

 
 
50%

2011

 
 
48%
Math

The state average for Math was 67% in 2012.

108 students were tested at this school in 2012.

2012

 
 
60%

2011

 
 
58%
Scale: % proficient or advanced

About the tests


In 2011-2012 New York used the New York State Assessments to test students in grades 3 through 8 in English language arts and math, and in grades 4 and 8 in science. The results for English language arts and math are displayed on GreatSchools profiles and the science results will be added when they are released in the Fall of 2013. The tests are standards-based, which means they measure how well students are mastering specific skills defined for each grade by the state of New York. The goal is for 90% of students to meet or exceed grade-level standards on the tests.

See New York's state standards

Source: New York State Education Department

English Language Arts

The state average for English Language Arts was 56% in 2012.

66 students were tested at this school in 2012.

2012

 
 
26%

2011

 
 
33%
Math

The state average for Math was 65% in 2012.

68 students were tested at this school in 2012.

2012

 
 
37%

2011

 
 
46%
Scale: % proficient or advanced

About the tests


In 2011-2012 New York used the New York State Assessments to test students in grades 3 through 8 in English language arts and math, and in grades 4 and 8 in science. The results for English language arts and math are displayed on GreatSchools profiles and the science results will be added when they are released in the Fall of 2013. The tests are standards-based, which means they measure how well students are mastering specific skills defined for each grade by the state of New York. The goal is for 90% of students to meet or exceed grade-level standards on the tests.

See New York's state standards

Source: New York State Education Department

English Language Arts

The state average for English Language Arts was 52% in 2012.

46 students were tested at this school in 2012.

2012

 
 
17%

2011

 
 
33%
Math

The state average for Math was 65% in 2012.

46 students were tested at this school in 2012.

2012

 
 
39%

2011

 
 
43%
Scale: % proficient or advanced

About the tests


In 2011-2012 New York used the New York State Assessments to test students in grades 3 through 8 in English language arts and math, and in grades 4 and 8 in science. The results for English language arts and math are displayed on GreatSchools profiles and the science results will be added when they are released in the Fall of 2013. The tests are standards-based, which means they measure how well students are mastering specific skills defined for each grade by the state of New York. The goal is for 90% of students to meet or exceed grade-level standards on the tests.

See New York's state standards

Source: New York State Education Department

English Language Arts

The state average for English Language Arts was 50% in 2012.

56 students were tested at this school in 2012.

2012

 
 
30%

2011

 
 
23%
Math

The state average for Math was 61% in 2012.

57 students were tested at this school in 2012.

2012

 
 
37%

2011

 
 
22%
Science

The state average for Science was 69% in 2011.

47 students were tested at this school in 2011.

2011

 
 
45%
Scale: % proficient or advanced

About the tests


In 2011-2012 New York used the New York State Assessments to test students in grades 3 through 8 in English language arts and math, and in grades 4 and 8 in science. The results for English language arts and math are displayed on GreatSchools profiles and the science results will be added when they are released in the Fall of 2013. The tests are standards-based, which means they measure how well students are mastering specific skills defined for each grade by the state of New York. The goal is for 90% of students to meet or exceed grade-level standards on the tests.

See New York's state standards

Source: New York State Education Department

In 2009-2010, this school was given a grade of "B" for the elementary and middle school level.

About the tests


Progress Report Grades measure the school's contribution to student learning in three areas: School Environment, Student Performance and Student Progress. Schools can receive additional credit for achieving exemplary performance progress among high-needs students. Progress Report Grades range from A to F.

See New York's state standards

Source: New York City Department of Education

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GreatSchools Ratings are based on the most recent standardized test results for schools. Use the breakdown ratings below to compare types of students at this school. Learn more »


Student ethnicity

Ethnicity This school State average
Hispanic 70% 21%
Black 20% 19%
White 7% 51%
Asian/Pacific Islander 3% 8%
American Indian/Alaska Native 0% 0%
Source: NCES, 2008-2009

Student subgroups

  This school District averageState average
Students eligible for free or reduced-price lunch program 87%N/A44%
Limited English proficient 27%N/A7%
Source: NYSED, 2007-2008

Student-teacher ratio

  This school District averageState average
Students per FTE teacher 13N/A13
Source: NCES, 2008-2009

Teacher experience

  This school District averageState average
Fewer than 3 years experience 35%N/A10%
Source: NYSED, 2007-2008

Teacher education levels

  This school District averageState average
Master's degree and above 22%N/A33%
Source: NYSED, 2007-2008

Teacher credentials

  This school District averageState average
Teachers with no valid teaching certificate 7%N/A5%
Source: NYSED, 2007-2008
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234 W 109th St
New York, NY 10025
Phone: (212) 678-2873

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