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Ps Is 187 Hudson Cliffs

Public | PK-8 | 798 students

 

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Posted April 27, 2014

Bring back classical music during lunch. It really does it make an impact on all children. Think math, science and culture.
—Submitted by a parent


Posted September 27, 2013

We are just a few years into the elementary school and in the past 2 years we have seen tremendous improvements in communication and an open and frank policy. The teachers are top notch and there is a reason why they stay so long. The relationship between the principal and her staff is known to be excellent. She is respected and it shows. Budget cuts plague this school as well as many in the community. Parent led organizations and the PTA are huge contributors to the success of many needed and added programs. I feel very happy to have my child safely tucked away and learning. What matters the most to me at this point is that he awakes up everyday happy to go to school !!!! I plan on continuing my involvement w the school IMO this is one of the most crucial parts of any school.
—Submitted by a parent


Posted September 27, 2013

Can only speak for elementary school. Overwhelming positives are the parent community and the staff and administration. The principal is adept at hiring teachers, and understands the strengths and weaknesses of each teacher. She is very purely focused on the kids, an orderly and safe building, and her staff. Only weaknesses is in communications - a weakness I at least am happy to trade for a seasoned leader. The school's weaknesses are all about funding cuts by DOE, who have cut so far into bone that even science and art are not funded and teachers are forced to focus class time almost entirely on testing related teaching. This is a school where kids are happy and parents, in the main are absolutely lovely.
—Submitted by a parent


Posted September 27, 2013

I have two children at this school, one in elementary and one in middle school. They both like the school very much. They particularly like their teachers and the fact that they are known by nearly all the adults in the school. The administrators and teachers seem to know all the kids even those not in their grade. The school is very community oriented and parents are very involved. The academics are strong. The school is strict, but the strictness helps the kids learn well in large classes. I feel grateful to have such a good neighborhood school.
—Submitted by a parent


Posted September 9, 2013

My child was a student in this middle school, I've heard that the K-5 grade is good. Middle school is another story is a shame that kids that needs extra help in the basic and most important subjects, math/english, are being overlooked. There are students in the so called "8A" class that dont meet the average level and this is a shame to ignore. I know for a fact that some of the teachers that belongs to those "A" classes are not giving the proper attention to students that needs extra help in order to keep at the "A" level. My child was a vivid example his math teacher was rushing to jump to a new project before making sure that the previous project was understood be the entire classroom. My child fell behind and had to attend summer school. I think that it's important to have highly qualified educator in the public school system not only by their resumes,But. Highly qualified by their human quality,dedication and cooperation w/ all types of student regardless of race,creed or social status. The I.S. administration needs a thorough change correcting this miscond when it comes to aTrue and Valuable Education for our kids.
—Submitted by a parent


Posted July 1, 2013

There are lifelong teachers and newer teachers here, a diverse student body, and enthusiastic and involved parents that support an active PTA. I grew up in suburbia and this school is exactly what I had, except this is NYC. The negatives are the problems currently faced by public schools nationwide - severe budget cuts, too much testing, large class sizes. While the administration may not be warm and fuzzy they are excellent at navigating the political landscape of the NYC DOE and making smart choices with whatever it is they have to work with, as well as fighting for more resources. My children are polar opposites - one ahead of the game, one behind, and both have had excellent teachers, a great experience, and love their school. And I get to walk them there each day, what could be better than that?
—Submitted by a parent


Posted August 23, 2012

This is an very conservative school. Conformity is the main objective. Kids who are creative or have learning differences will not be well served by the majority of the teachers or the administration.
—Submitted by a parent


Posted August 12, 2012

We feel lucky that this is our neighborhood school. Yes, it suffers from budget cuts, same as all schools in NYC- but the community rallies to keep exciting, innovative programs happening. There absolutely is differentiated instruction- I have multiple children at this school with different strengths, they struggle with different things and for each of them I see regular evidence of the teacher supporting their individual needs. Most of the teachers at this school are passionate and phenomenal. This school has the most amazing neighborhood community full of creative generous families who brainstorm and cooperate and come together to make beautiful things happen for the children. My favorite is the Schoolapalooza Parent Talent show that happens as a fund raiser, incredible opera singers, beat-boxers ans salsa dancers, actors and poets and modern dancers and comedians and magicians and rockers and jazz musicians perform to a roaring crowd. The Christmas Tree Sale fund-raiser, and the Gala, and Jazz concerts, and the monthly family movie nights are all fun community events that really make the school part of family life that brings a romantic sense of home to reality.
—Submitted by a parent


Posted August 2, 2012

A blue ribbon school. Elementary school is one of the best. This school is getting better every year.
—Submitted by a parent


Posted August 1, 2012

My son goes to this school and we are very happy. It's an excellent school. Great leadership and parent invlovements.
—Submitted by a parent


Posted September 13, 2011

We left this school after K. I think it was--and can be again in the future--a great school. But the last few years PS 187 has lost 10 to 12 teachers to budget cuts. Class size has swelled to 30 in first grade, science instruction was eliminated for K-2, and there's very little differentiation in teaching for students. I liked that the school focused on the basics. But it was clear that even that can't be done well with large classes and questionable discipline policies. What's more, the needs of many students simply aren't met. If you need lots of help, you get it. If you're average or better, you get a lot less. There are also more than a few parents who don't care. My son's K teacher said he was one of 5 or 6 kids who did the homework regularly; 7 or 8 did the homework fewer than twice a month. More than once I heard a parent tell a young child to hit or punch other kids if they did X or Y. What's more, I don't think the principal has made a real effort to correct what the school quality reviewers always notice: no differentiation in education. There are some wonderful teachers in the school and lots of potential. But there are many issues to tackle to make it great.
—Submitted by a parent


Posted April 29, 2011

I agree that the school has some great programs and teachers. I am also not so sure that my child should miss their very much appreciated art class for a program that was pushed by other parents. I didn't sign my child up for it. I am glad that the principal sticks to traditions in which the school was founded upon--I didn't sign my child up for experimentation! My child is at school to learn and grow rather than be entertained by "fluffy" teachers. What I am disappointed in is the parents inability to come together to work WITH the school. It is sad to see that there is a small minority of parents who push their progressive agenda rather than what is best for ALL students.
—Submitted by a parent


Posted April 26, 2011

Not all parents agree with progressive education. Let me make it clear that I am a fan of what PS/IS 187 has to offer. I am NOT a fan of parents running the school. As for the music teacher accolades- most of us know the political nature of that comment. A select group of parents want to run the school and that needs to be stopped by the administration. I have spoken to my children and several teachers about these so-called needed extra programs and the consensus is that teachers have little say in what programs are effective. Again, it is all about the parents and their status. They should find another school. I do agree with the statement about the teachers- yes, some are good and some not quite.
—Submitted by a parent


Posted November 1, 2010

It is a safe, solid community, where parents, administrators and teachers work hard to help our school and students achieve their goals.
—Submitted by a parent


Posted June 3, 2009

I would not agree that Ms. Aravena was the best principal. I am happy with the change. I have one child in the middle school and one child in the elementary and I feel they both are being given a high quality education. My only complaint is the parents who feel they own the school and know best teaching practices.
—Submitted by a parent


Posted May 27, 2009

Both my sons started at this school in kindergarden ( one is graduating 8th grade this year and my younger one is in 5th grade) and even my husband attended this school. But the middle school is not equal at all to the elementary school. I felt that the kids 'get lost' and they are not provided with enough prep to get to high school. I had to do a lot of my own research regarding applying to high schools for my son and was very disappointed with the school. Luckily my son did make it into a great high school as well as my younger son made it into another great public middle school in the city. Everyone will agree that Ms. Aravena was the best principal and the school def needs a leader as strong and caring as her !
—Submitted by a parent


Posted April 22, 2009

My child attends pre-K program at the school. The teacher, Dorothy, and her assistant, Narcissa, are very nice. Narcissa has been doing beautiful art projects with kids. Ms. Dorothy usually has a topic to discuss with the kids at the beginning of the class and then sits down to play with a group of kids or leads a science project. The environment in the class is very structured. I would have hoped that teachers would pay more attention to social interactions in the classroom. I realize that possibly more resources are needed for this, however I believe that it is very important.
—Submitted by a parent


Posted January 26, 2009

hi im delilah aybar and i go to hudson cliffs school i am happy to say i love being in this school they dont care about looks. they care about the kids education here i have walked in these halls and always see smiling faces and teachers always saying good morring. i will always have love for this school not because of the location just for its teachers and students who will always have care for us the Children of the United States of America
—Submitted by a student


Posted January 11, 2009

This school is excellent for children in early grades. It has a great after-school program. Although they keep up with requirements, the K-4 teachers allow kids to learn at their own pace, which is very rare. K-4 music, science and art programs are strong. The middle school is a different story. Some teachers are excellent, others seem barely competent. Despite strict discipline policies, some older kids run wild during recess, are loud, rude and bullying. There are many cultural field trips for middle school kids. Unfortunately, in-school music, science and art aren't nearly as strong for middle school as the K-4 programs. Principal, teachers and administrators do an outstanding job of holding things together, despite budget cuts. Truly a neighborhood school, it becoming more ethnically diverse, and parents are becoming very active, so it should continue to improve. Overall, t's an excellent NYC public school, but its Middle School be much better.
—Submitted by a parent


Posted January 10, 2009

This is an excellent school. I can see that the ethnic diversity in it has given my son such a priceless gift. He asks me about traditions and sports that his friends(classmates of other cultures, in this context) with a lot of enthusiasm. Wonderful! My son has Mrs Dorothy as a pre-k teacher. She is very resourceful and gives parents feedback on the child on a daily basis. She tells you the areas you must work on with your child but also the amazing sweet things yoour kid does and that we all get all teary about. She stresses discipline and that is good. She does not treat the children as if they are the ones in charge. GOOD!. we have enough permissive parenting going on already and the school should not adopt that style. I find the security guard (male) who sits at the front desk very very rude.
—Submitted by a parent


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The Community Rating is the school’s average rating from its community members (e.g., parents, students, and school staff). The highest possible rating is five stars; the lowest is one star.

The test results by subgroup show how the designated group of students is performing in comparison to the general population.
English Language Arts

The state average for English Language Arts was 32% in 2014.

77 students were tested at this school in 2014.

2014

 
 
55%

2013

 
 
43%

2012

 
 
64%
Math

The state average for Math was 42% in 2014.

78 students were tested at this school in 2014.

2014

 
 
50%

2013

 
 
46%

2012

 
 
82%
Scale: % proficient or advanced

About the tests


Beginning in the 2012-2013 school year, the New York State Department of Instruction implemented new assessments designed to be aligned with the Common Core State Standards. The new standards for proficiency in these subjects are higher than in previous years and the percent of students earning a proficient score is expected to be lower as a result of this change. See this letter from New York's Commissioner of Education for more information on these changes.

In 2013-2014 New York used the New York State Assessments to test students in grades 3 through 8 in English language arts and math, and in grades 4 and 8 in Science. At present 2013-14 results are available only for English language arts and math. The tests are standards-based, which means they measure how well students are mastering specific skills defined for each grade by the state of New York. The goal is for 90% of students to meet or exceed grade-level standards on the tests.

Source: New York State Education Department

English Language Arts

The state average for English Language Arts was 33% in 2014.

82 students were tested at this school in 2014.

2014

 
 
47%

2013

 
 
36%

2012

 
 
69%
Math

The state average for Math was 43% in 2014.

82 students were tested at this school in 2014.

2014

 
 
55%

2013

 
 
42%

2012

 
 
82%
Science

The state average for Science was 90% in 2013.

73 students were tested at this school in 2013.

2013

 
 
95%
Scale: % proficient or advanced

About the tests


Beginning in the 2012-2013 school year, the New York State Department of Instruction implemented new assessments designed to be aligned with the Common Core State Standards. The new standards for proficiency in these subjects are higher than in previous years and the percent of students earning a proficient score is expected to be lower as a result of this change. See this letter from New York's Commissioner of Education for more information on these changes.

In 2013-2014 New York used the New York State Assessments to test students in grades 3 through 8 in English language arts and math, and in grades 4 and 8 in Science. At present 2013-14 results are available only for English language arts and math. The tests are standards-based, which means they measure how well students are mastering specific skills defined for each grade by the state of New York. The goal is for 90% of students to meet or exceed grade-level standards on the tests.

Source: New York State Education Department

English Language Arts

The state average for English Language Arts was 30% in 2014.

68 students were tested at this school in 2014.

2014

 
 
41%

2013

 
 
34%

2012

 
 
65%
Math

The state average for Math was 40% in 2014.

69 students were tested at this school in 2014.

2014

 
 
49%

2013

 
 
27%

2012

 
 
60%
Scale: % proficient or advanced

About the tests


Beginning in the 2012-2013 school year, the New York State Department of Instruction implemented new assessments designed to be aligned with the Common Core State Standards. The new standards for proficiency in these subjects are higher than in previous years and the percent of students earning a proficient score is expected to be lower as a result of this change. See this letter from New York's Commissioner of Education for more information on these changes.

In 2013-2014 New York used the New York State Assessments to test students in grades 3 through 8 in English language arts and math, and in grades 4 and 8 in Science. At present 2013-14 results are available only for English language arts and math. The tests are standards-based, which means they measure how well students are mastering specific skills defined for each grade by the state of New York. The goal is for 90% of students to meet or exceed grade-level standards on the tests.

Source: New York State Education Department

English Language Arts

The state average for English Language Arts was 29% in 2014.

76 students were tested at this school in 2014.

2014

 
 
18%

2013

 
 
25%

2012

 
 
55%
Math

The state average for Math was 38% in 2014.

77 students were tested at this school in 2014.

2014

 
 
39%

2013

 
 
32%

2012

 
 
52%
Scale: % proficient or advanced

About the tests


Beginning in the 2012-2013 school year, the New York State Department of Instruction implemented new assessments designed to be aligned with the Common Core State Standards. The new standards for proficiency in these subjects are higher than in previous years and the percent of students earning a proficient score is expected to be lower as a result of this change. See this letter from New York's Commissioner of Education for more information on these changes.

In 2013-2014 New York used the New York State Assessments to test students in grades 3 through 8 in English language arts and math, and in grades 4 and 8 in Science. At present 2013-14 results are available only for English language arts and math. The tests are standards-based, which means they measure how well students are mastering specific skills defined for each grade by the state of New York. The goal is for 90% of students to meet or exceed grade-level standards on the tests.

Source: New York State Education Department

English Language Arts

The state average for English Language Arts was 29% in 2014.

90 students were tested at this school in 2014.

2014

 
 
41%

2013

 
 
32%

2012

 
 
35%
Math

The state average for Math was 33% in 2014.

90 students were tested at this school in 2014.

2014

 
 
41%

2013

 
 
30%

2012

 
 
63%
Scale: % proficient or advanced

About the tests


Beginning in the 2012-2013 school year, the New York State Department of Instruction implemented new assessments designed to be aligned with the Common Core State Standards. The new standards for proficiency in these subjects are higher than in previous years and the percent of students earning a proficient score is expected to be lower as a result of this change. See this letter from New York's Commissioner of Education for more information on these changes.

In 2013-2014 New York used the New York State Assessments to test students in grades 3 through 8 in English language arts and math, and in grades 4 and 8 in Science. At present 2013-14 results are available only for English language arts and math. The tests are standards-based, which means they measure how well students are mastering specific skills defined for each grade by the state of New York. The goal is for 90% of students to meet or exceed grade-level standards on the tests.

Source: New York State Education Department

English Language Arts

The state average for English Language Arts was 36% in 2014.

78 students were tested at this school in 2014.

2014

 
 
43%

2013

 
 
29%

2012

 
 
61%
Math

The state average for Math was 22% in 2014.

80 students were tested at this school in 2014.

2014

 
 
43%

2013

 
 
29%

2012

 
 
75%
Science

The state average for Science was 69% in 2013.

77 students were tested at this school in 2013.

2013

 
 
78%
Scale: % proficient or advanced

About the tests


Beginning in the 2012-2013 school year, the New York State Department of Instruction implemented new assessments designed to be aligned with the Common Core State Standards. The new standards for proficiency in these subjects are higher than in previous years and the percent of students earning a proficient score is expected to be lower as a result of this change. See this letter from New York's Commissioner of Education for more information on these changes.

In 2013-2014 New York used the New York State Assessments to test students in grades 3 through 8 in English language arts and math, and in grades 4 and 8 in Science. At present 2013-14 results are available only for English language arts and math. The tests are standards-based, which means they measure how well students are mastering specific skills defined for each grade by the state of New York. The goal is for 90% of students to meet or exceed grade-level standards on the tests.

Source: New York State Education Department

In 2009-2010, this school was given a grade of "A" for the elementary and middle school level.

About the tests


Progress Report Grades measure the school's contribution to student learning in three areas: School Environment, Student Performance and Student Progress. Schools can receive additional credit for achieving exemplary performance progress among high-needs students. Progress Report Grades range from A to F.

Source: New York City Department of Education

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Student ethnicity

Ethnicity This school State average
Hispanic 2 57% 23%
White 1 34% 48%
Asian or Asian/Pacific Islander 2 5% 9%
Black 1 3% 19%
American Indian/Alaska Native 2 1% 1%
Two or more races 1 0% 1%
Source: NCES, 2011-2012
Source: 2 NYSED, 2011-2012

Student subgroups

  This school District averageState average
Limited English proficient 29%N/A8%
Students eligible for free or reduced-price lunch program 252%N/A43%
Source: 1 NYSED, 2011-2012
Source: 2 NCES, 2011-2012

Teacher experience

  This school District averageState average
Fewer than 3 years experience 9%N/A5%
Source: NYSED, 2011-2012

Teacher education levels

  This school District averageState average
Master's degree and above 49%N/A39%
Source: NYSED, 2011-2012

Teacher credentials

  This school District averageState average
Teachers with no valid teaching certificate 0%N/A0%
Source: NYSED, 2011-2012
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Category scores for each of the respondent groups are then combined to form overall category scores. Alongside the results for each school are the aggregated results across all NYC public schools, which are provided as a basis for comparisons.

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8.1
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City average
8.0
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Parents

This school

 
8.6
 

City average

 
8.4
 

Students

This school

 
7.6
 

City average

 
7.2
 

Teachers

This school

 
8.1
 

City average

 
8.0
 
Clear, useful communication about educational goalsWhat's this?

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This school
7.7
out of 10
 
City average
8.1
out of 10
 

Parents

This school

 
8.3
 

City average

 
8.5
 

Students

This school

 
7.7
 

City average

 
7.8
 

Teachers

This school

 
7.2
 

City average

 
7.8
 
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This school
7.4
out of 10
 
City average
7.8
out of 10
 

Parents

This school

 
8.0
 

City average

 
8.1
 

Students

This school

 
7.2
 

City average

 
7.2
 

Teachers

This school

 
6.9
 

City average

 
7.8
 
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This school
7.9
out of 10
 
City average
8.2
out of 10
 

Parents

This school

 
8.1
 

City average

 
8.3
 

Students

This school

 
8.0
 

City average

 
8.1
 

Teachers

This school

 
7.5
 

City average

 
8.1
 

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 RespondentsResponse rate
Parents49279%
Students25499%
Teachers4388%

12012-2013 New York City Department of Education School Survey

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