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P.S. 191 Amsterdam

Public | PK-8 | 496 students

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4 stars

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Posted January 24, 2013

My son is in Kindergarten here and I am totally impressed. He is a mainstream student in an ICT class and he is truly benefiting from the amazingly patient, competent and driven teachers. These teachers care! At first I was nervous about sending him. However, the scores online DO NOT depict what is really going on there. They are working so hard at bringing up these scores and it is evident. The classrooms have ipads, laptops and smartboards. He is learning piano, dance and doing gorgeous art projects. My son has learned so much. The parent coordinator knows every student personally and takes such great care of them (and their parents). Everyone talks about how great the pre-k is but I have to say, the Kindergarten is wonderful too. Take a tour. You will be surprised.
—Submitted by a parent


Posted January 19, 2013

As a sub/NYS Certified Teacher, I find that the middle school has a discipline problem. I have been a substitute teacher for 11 years and a NYS Certified teacher for 2 and I have subbed in 100 or more public and private schools. I recently subbed for this school and I was the co-teacher to the primary teacher. You unfortunately expect, a substitute teacher to be put through the grinder, but they were also putting the classroom teacher through the mill and they have been with her since September. Students get away with so much negative behavior because teachers and administrators are afraid to put the hammer down on bad behavior. Also when it comes to other adults in the school, students need to know that ALL adults should be respected, not debated. I will say that the parents are responsible for some of the negative behavior, peer pressure is next and the fear and the tied hands of the teachers and the administration is the another factor. Children have been given too much empowerment in the schools and the teachers having become pawns. This assignment definitely compelled me to write this post based on my disappointing experience. Needless to say, that I will not return.
—Submitted by a teacher


Posted June 11, 2011

I am the proud parent supporter of The Museum Magnet school for Inquiry Innovation and Imagination formerly known as PS 191. I am writing on behalf of my daughter to commend her Pre-K G-6 teachers for all their leadership, commitment, hard work, and support throughout year. I expected great things this year and I have not been disappointed. So often we hear complaints from parents and teachers that the other is not doing their job. It is hard for teachers to understand the strengths and challenges of parents and parents often feel like outsiders in the school world. So I am very thankful we are breaking down barriers fostering positive communication between teachers and strong school to home connection through face to face dialogue, emails, phone calls, weekly newsletters, etc... I believe it is vital to have an excellent rapport with your child's teacher because it will lead to better outcomes for your child. I highly recommend sending your child here very please with the curriculum!
—Submitted by a parent


Posted June 11, 2011

We have had a great experience with the preK program this year. The teachers and the staff--particularly the parent coordinator, Damaris Carrion--are dedicated and wonderful. I am excited about the direction this school is headed as the Museum Magnet school. My son gets free art classes from Studio in a School and free after school yoga from Kids Creative. There have been field trips to the theater, a farm, botanical gardens and the Metropolitan Museum of Art. There's a partnership in the works with Lincoln Center. And their winter and spring shows are not to be missed! (Blew me away, really.) Mr. Piccorelli, the music teacher, is great. I'm aware of the poor ratings this school gets and I can't speak to the upper grades, but I was very happy with the preK program and I have heard good things about kindergarten as well. We have had a wonderful experience this year and I see that this school is actively working to improve and best meet the needs of its students.
—Submitted by a parent


Posted June 10, 2011

I remember pouring over online reviews in the yr before my little guy started pre-K. I hoped to find a school that would be fun, challenging, and enjoyed; a perfect fit. His year of preschool (year before PS 191) was abysmal. He attended a wonderful, expensive, very social preschool. My son hated it. Going to school daily was intensely difficult. If you saw a mom with a stroller and a screaming thrashing child going up WEA during 2009-2010, that might have been us. What a gift this year has been. My son's teacher has 18 kids in her class. She is assisted by a full time teachers assistant, and during half of the year, by a student teacher. His teacher addresses my sons academic strengths and weaknesses. Ms. B. handles the behavioral difficulties that occur in any classroom, but seem to be intense at this developmental stage as kids try to be separate. The music program, and work with Lincoln Center Inst, field trips to look at one hundred year old buildings, sculpture, etc., is amazing. The teacher, asst teacher, principal, parent coordinator, music and art teacher have all been very receptive and accessible. With the magnet grant the future continues to look bright.
—Submitted by a parent


Posted June 8, 2011

My son is currently in the 7th grade. he has been in the school for 2yrs now. From day one the teachers, counselor, assistant principal have been supportive and provide me with information constantly in regards to his behavior both good and bad. My son has struggled with his behavior which in fact affects his grades but the staff has not given up on him and are working diligently to bring out his potential. Up until 6th grade my sons grades were nearly excellent and they are helping me to bring him back non stop.
—Submitted by a parent


Posted October 29, 2008

My son is in Pre-k and I must admit I was apprehensive before he started but am now totally won over. The teacher's are dedicated, professional and very qualified. Recently school uniforms were introduced and they have really added to student pride and a sense of community. The level of parent support is improving. There are regular fund raisers - raffles, bake sales etc. Ms. Carrion, the parent co-ordinator and the Principal, Ms Verdesoto are doing an excellent job at making this a great school.
—Submitted by a parent


Posted November 22, 2006

I have three children in this school and they are all very different children and this school manages to accommodate each child. One of my children struggles with reading while the other is in the gifted and talented program and the one who struggles with reading gets a lot of extra help it just really works out well for all of them I give the school two thumbs up!
—Submitted by T. Ortiz, a parent


Posted October 11, 2006

My son attends P.S. 191 and it is a wonderful school, the staff is very caring and the Parent Coordinator Mrs. Carrion is very professional and always answer questions asked and not asked. i am looking forward to my son learning in this school I beklieve with the kind of teachers and staff this school possess he and all other children attending will go far.
—Submitted by Nikel Dixon-Jones, a parent


Posted September 30, 2006

The new middle school here, Hudson Honors, is still a work in progress, but coming along quite nicely. I look at what my child has learned compared with what other kids know as well as what the high schools want and I am pleasantly surprised. I think they could teach to a higher level here, however, even though a good number of kids aren't at grade level. Threre is good after-school stuff and lots of extra academic help from the teachers for kids who want it--though some clearly need it and don't ask. Every kid takes Spanish too, and that is a plus. Bad thing is not enough gym time for these youngsters. But on the whole, a good staff, serious principal, and mostly well-behaved kids.
—Submitted by a parent


Posted September 27, 2005

This is my daughter's first year in New York City Public School and I'm very happy to have her at P.S.191. The class size is good (<25 in 4th grade) and her teacher is excellent. Academically I feel she is being challenged and is nightly bringing home useful homework, no busy-work. The staff at the school is incredible. Administrators are always available to speak with parents, and they make us feel welcome daily by either greeting us at the door, holding open house discussions, and even serving coffee regularly in the parent room where parents and staff can discuss school topics. The school works frequently with community projects to bring extra-cirricular activities in art, science, social studies, and sports to the students. My daughter is getting a quality education in a very pleasant atmosphere. I have an excellent impression of this school.
—Submitted by Kimberly, a parent


Posted May 20, 2005

The quality of academics is poor. It's hard for children to learn because there are too many kids per class, my child was in kindergarten in this school and he had 27 kids in his class'. He came home almost everyday saying he didn't learn anything while in school. my child is five years old he loved to go to school but now he don't want to go. 191 is not a good school.
—Submitted by Jazzmin Johnson, a parent


Posted September 8, 2004

This is a great school I give it a thumbs way up. Anybody and everybodys child should go there.
—Submitted by a former student


Community ratings and reviews do not represent the views of GreatSchools nor does GreatSchools check their accuracy or verify the reviewers' identities. Use your discretion when evaluating these reviews.

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The Community Rating is the school’s average rating from its community members (e.g., parents, students, and school staff). The highest possible rating is five stars; the lowest is one star.

The test results by subgroup show how the designated group of students is performing in comparison to the general population.
English Language Arts

The state average for English Language Arts was 56% in 2012.

35 students were tested at this school in 2012.

2012

 
 
46%

2011

 
 
41%
Math

The state average for Math was 61% in 2012.

35 students were tested at this school in 2012.

2012

 
 
60%

2011

 
 
63%
Scale: % proficient or advanced

About the tests


In 2011-2012 New York used the New York State Assessments to test students in grades 3 through 8 in English language arts and math, and in grades 4 and 8 in science. The results for English language arts and math are displayed on GreatSchools profiles and the science results will be added when they are released in the Fall of 2013. The tests are standards-based, which means they measure how well students are mastering specific skills defined for each grade by the state of New York. The goal is for 90% of students to meet or exceed grade-level standards on the tests.

See New York's state standards

Source: New York State Education Department

English Language Arts

The state average for English Language Arts was 59% in 2012.

41 students were tested at this school in 2012.

2012

 
 
42%

2011

 
 
25%
Math

The state average for Math was 69% in 2012.

43 students were tested at this school in 2012.

2012

 
 
63%

2011

 
 
53%
Science

The state average for Science was 88% in 2011.

46 students were tested at this school in 2011.

2011

 
 
71%
Scale: % proficient or advanced

About the tests


In 2011-2012 New York used the New York State Assessments to test students in grades 3 through 8 in English language arts and math, and in grades 4 and 8 in science. The results for English language arts and math are displayed on GreatSchools profiles and the science results will be added when they are released in the Fall of 2013. The tests are standards-based, which means they measure how well students are mastering specific skills defined for each grade by the state of New York. The goal is for 90% of students to meet or exceed grade-level standards on the tests.

See New York's state standards

Source: New York State Education Department

English Language Arts

The state average for English Language Arts was 58% in 2012.

46 students were tested at this school in 2012.

2012

 
 
26%

2011

 
 
31%
Math

The state average for Math was 67% in 2012.

48 students were tested at this school in 2012.

2012

 
 
42%

2011

 
 
55%
Scale: % proficient or advanced

About the tests


In 2011-2012 New York used the New York State Assessments to test students in grades 3 through 8 in English language arts and math, and in grades 4 and 8 in science. The results for English language arts and math are displayed on GreatSchools profiles and the science results will be added when they are released in the Fall of 2013. The tests are standards-based, which means they measure how well students are mastering specific skills defined for each grade by the state of New York. The goal is for 90% of students to meet or exceed grade-level standards on the tests.

See New York's state standards

Source: New York State Education Department

English Language Arts

The state average for English Language Arts was 56% in 2012.

62 students were tested at this school in 2012.

2012

 
 
40%

2011

 
 
46%
Math

The state average for Math was 65% in 2012.

63 students were tested at this school in 2012.

2012

 
 
48%

2011

 
 
52%
Scale: % proficient or advanced

About the tests


In 2011-2012 New York used the New York State Assessments to test students in grades 3 through 8 in English language arts and math, and in grades 4 and 8 in science. The results for English language arts and math are displayed on GreatSchools profiles and the science results will be added when they are released in the Fall of 2013. The tests are standards-based, which means they measure how well students are mastering specific skills defined for each grade by the state of New York. The goal is for 90% of students to meet or exceed grade-level standards on the tests.

See New York's state standards

Source: New York State Education Department

English Language Arts

The state average for English Language Arts was 52% in 2012.

82 students were tested at this school in 2012.

2012

 
 
27%

2011

 
 
25%
Math

The state average for Math was 65% in 2012.

82 students were tested at this school in 2012.

2012

 
 
59%

2011

 
 
46%
Scale: % proficient or advanced

About the tests


In 2011-2012 New York used the New York State Assessments to test students in grades 3 through 8 in English language arts and math, and in grades 4 and 8 in science. The results for English language arts and math are displayed on GreatSchools profiles and the science results will be added when they are released in the Fall of 2013. The tests are standards-based, which means they measure how well students are mastering specific skills defined for each grade by the state of New York. The goal is for 90% of students to meet or exceed grade-level standards on the tests.

See New York's state standards

Source: New York State Education Department

English Language Arts

The state average for English Language Arts was 50% in 2012.

58 students were tested at this school in 2012.

2012

 
 
36%

2011

 
 
37%
Math

The state average for Math was 61% in 2012.

58 students were tested at this school in 2012.

2012

 
 
43%

2011

 
 
34%
Science

The state average for Science was 69% in 2011.

46 students were tested at this school in 2011.

2011

 
 
74%
Scale: % proficient or advanced

About the tests


In 2011-2012 New York used the New York State Assessments to test students in grades 3 through 8 in English language arts and math, and in grades 4 and 8 in science. The results for English language arts and math are displayed on GreatSchools profiles and the science results will be added when they are released in the Fall of 2013. The tests are standards-based, which means they measure how well students are mastering specific skills defined for each grade by the state of New York. The goal is for 90% of students to meet or exceed grade-level standards on the tests.

See New York's state standards

Source: New York State Education Department

In 2009-2010, this school was given a grade of "C" for the elementary and middle school level.

About the tests


Progress Report Grades measure the school's contribution to student learning in three areas: School Environment, Student Performance and Student Progress. Schools can receive additional credit for achieving exemplary performance progress among high-needs students. Progress Report Grades range from A to F.

See New York's state standards

Source: New York City Department of Education

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Student ethnicity

Ethnicity This school State average
Hispanic 47% 21%
Black 42% 19%
White 7% 51%
Asian/Pacific Islander 4% 8%
American Indian/Alaska Native 1% 0%
Source: NCES, 2008-2009

Student subgroups

  This school District averageState average
Students eligible for free or reduced-price lunch program 80%N/A44%
Limited English proficient 8%N/A7%
Source: NYSED, 2007-2008

Student-teacher ratio

  This school District averageState average
Students per FTE teacher 12N/A13
Source: NCES, 2008-2009

Teacher experience

  This school District averageState average
Fewer than 3 years experience 11%N/A10%
Source: NYSED, 2007-2008

Teacher education levels

  This school District averageState average
Master's degree and above 30%N/A33%
Source: NYSED, 2007-2008

Teacher credentials

  This school District averageState average
Teachers with no valid teaching certificate 13%N/A5%
Source: NYSED, 2007-2008
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210 W 61st St
New York, NY 10023
Phone: (212) 757-4343

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