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Ps 184 Shuang Wen

Public | PK-8 | 690 students

 

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Posted April 29, 2014

P.S. 184 is a school in transition. Although there are a few parents left from the old administration the school is moving into new areas of growth. It is using the Shadow Box Theatre and other unique programs that bring children into a learning fun environment. The D.O.E. needs to reach out to this Principal and give her the support she deserves and needs. There will be some leaving but those who truly want a Dual language education will help to make it grow and be strong. The parents who don't want a Dual Language school should leave instead of trying to sabotage the school and it's program. I for one have suggested certain programs like the Jump Program and The Algebra Project to help children learn mathematics from early fractions to Algebra and beyond. I hope that the school grows but this can only happen when those who seek to sabotage and destroy are removed.
—Submitted by a parent


Posted April 12, 2014

the school has stabilized. teachers are great. my kids are fluent bilingual chinese speakers. love it!
—Submitted by a parent


Posted April 12, 2014

Finally a permanent principal has been appointed to this school--that is helping to stabilize things after a hard couple of years. I appreciate Iris Chiu and all she has done to follow DOE's orders to transform this school into a bilingual program within the DOE hours. It's been a tough ride, but we're there now!
—Submitted by a parent


Posted March 20, 2014

Excellent teachers and principle who set high academic expectations for the students, but who are warm and supportive along the way.
—Submitted by a parent


Posted January 23, 2014

Shuang Wen under the current leadership is A BREATHE of FRESH INNOVATIVE AIR. I appreciate Prinicpal Iris Chiu and I empathize with her due to the constant harrassment and ill treatment from previous parents who were unhappy with change. She is doing a wondeful time with our children, it is a shame that some parents need more work than the children in the realm of self restraint and intellectual discourse. Principal Chiu during this uncomfortable transition has maintain her professionlism and our children were able to achieve the same rating on Standardized Testing which kept Shuang Wen under good standing. Every School community there is room for improvement.
—Submitted by a parent


Posted October 1, 2013

Still a great school despite sub par leadership - As much as I miss last administration I think this is still a very good school. My opinion is that the old system with SWAN after school is better than this 50/50 bilingual system. I respect parents' decision in taking their kids out of the school because they have no faith in the current prinicipal. However I want to ask these parents to stop saying the school is "not good anymore" and that all the "good" teachers left the school. Show some respect for the people that are still in the school and the many teachers that are still trying to help our kids. From what I see, the teachers at this school are all working hard and they don't deserve that. As for Ms. Iris Chiu, you cannot gain our respect by trying to stay out of trouble by putting up a wall. You need to be more involved, know your students, know your teachers and motivate everyone. This is your chance to prove all those parents who left the school wrong!
—Submitted by a parent


Posted September 30, 2013

It's sad to say, but previous comments are true. This school needs better leadership. Issues need to be addressed in real time. Every parent should feel that their voice counts and that their child is safe. Children should be pushed but not to the extreme.
—Submitted by a parent


Posted August 11, 2013

There is no Principal leadership in this school. She hides behind closed doors. Both the parents and the children do not know who the principal is. It's a shame. This is the first school I have been to where the Principal doesn't even partake in school activities or events. She only shows face when its to her benefit. She wont allow Parent participation because she is afraid the parents will find something. If the Principal allowed the parents to be more involved things would be a lot different. Grades have dropped drastically, incidents go unreported. Bullying is not addressed. This was a great school and is failing more and more each year. We need a new principal. Iris Chiu is not it. Our children need someone who knows them and cares for them. NOt one who pushes issues under the rug. Give our kids what they deserve. A fair chance at a GREAT education.
—Submitted by a parent


Posted August 2, 2013

I have reviewed this school in the past and find it becoming a good school with the possibility of it becoming great. There was a problem with a group of parents who didn't belong in the school. This is being addressed, and I hope that they are all removed at some point. There was also a problem with some teachers which I will not address suffice to say they have been removed. The school is now addressing Dual Language grade by grade my sadness is that many children won't benefit as they are in the upper grades and will be gone by the time this is fully implemented. I think that the current leadership is doing a yeoman's job with transforming the school as she has faced hostile parents and staff that does not respect real work. I say to all the parents there the school was founded to help low income students attain academic excellence, if you are not happy leave. Let Shaung Wen thrive and grown. District 1 parents put Shaung Wen as your only choice if you want to get in. Let them see that Learners come in all colors.
—Submitted by a parent


Posted August 1, 2013

from the number of students and teaching staffs leaving the school, i am sure that the current principal is not doing a good job. She only helps those that stands on her side and not doing ANYTHING for the school. When Ms. Ling Ling was there, she interacts with EACH student and she can call out EVERYONE of their names so easily. We really miss our previous principal and we are happy that she won the case finally!
—Submitted by a parent


Posted December 12, 2012

SWAN students with a score of 600 or above for 6th, 7th, and 8th grade on Chinese SAT II prep test are 38%, 63%, and 68% respectively. Grades 1-5 took the Test of Chinese as a Foreign Language (TOCFL) for grades 6-8. Approximately 98% of 1st & 2nd grade students passed the CCCC Sprouting Level, which included 400 Chinese phrases. For grades 3-5, students took different levels based on their Chinese levels; 40% of student population passed the CCCC Seedling Level, which included 700 Chinese phrases, and another 41% of them passed the CCCC Blossoming Level, which included 1100 Chinese phrases. All of the 6th 8th grade students were assigned to take different test levels of TOCFL based on their Chinese levels. The TOCFL includes five levels: Level 1 to Level 5, which are equivalent to Novice Level, Intermediate-Low & Intermediate- Mid Level, Intermediate-High Level, Advanced-Mid Level, and Superior Level, respectively, based on the American Council on the Teaching of Foreign Languages (ACTFL) Proficiency Guidelines. The percentages of 6th-8th grade students passing Level 1 to Level 4 of TOCFL are 7%, 19%, 26%, and 6%, respectively, and two 8th grade students passed TOCFL Level 5!
—Submitted by a parent


Posted August 8, 2012

Need some opinion!! My child is going to Kindergarten this fall. She accepted by ps 184 and private school Transfiguration school NYC. I know both are good schools. I have a hard time making decision of which school for my child.Is there anybody give me some advise? Many Thanks
—Submitted by a parent


Posted June 22, 2012

Let's make it clear: was Shuang Wen tecnically a real dual language? NO, it was a regular english public school with optional 1000$/year chinese afterschool from 3.30 to 5.30. Is S. W. now a real Dual Language school"? YES is a public school with 50% program in chinese and 50% in english and same optional chinese afterschool. Was S. W. a good school? Yes, it was an EXCELLENT school with the highest scores among NYC public scool. Is the "new" S. W. a good school? We'll find out after few years of experimental program to please a power game that has nothing to do with the ethic of education. I believe in protecting what has been proved to be, for years, an outstanding schoo. Furthermore: after living in China for many years, and studying Chinese languageI can confirm the afterschool has by far a higher quality of teaching and academic compared to the new system. You don't send your kids here because it's cool to say NIHAO, SW is facing the risk to become one of the many mediocre schools in NYC. Is there any other afterschool for 1000$ in NYC? I can't see any positive purpose for removing it given the fact that is cheap, great and optional. Hope nobody will have to regret this choi
—Submitted by a parent


Posted September 23, 2011

Under our principal Ms.LingLing, Shuang Wen WAS a great school! no pain no gain. students must study very hard here. Since Ms.LingLing is not here,(2011 Sept) it is a big mess here. I rate this school 5 starts-- is for Ms.LingLing! Ms. LingLing we miss you much!
—Submitted by a parent


Posted August 22, 2010

Shuang Wen is a great school, but not for my child.The 2009-10 school year was her last. Although the teaching staff was great, there really is no plan for children struggling in Chinese.The already long day of 8:30 - 5:30 was extended to 8- 5:30 for extra Chinese tutoring.My daughter's hours in school exceeded my own work day! As she moved up in grades, her frustration only grew and as much as the idea of my child being fluent in Mandarin appealed to me, a burned out 8 year old did not.It was not an easy decision to move her, but I know it was the right one.Again, Shuang Wen is a great school for the right child. I don't feel like I didn't work hard enough as a parent, or my daughter did not do her part as a student, it just didn't work for her. Good luck!
—Submitted by a parent


Posted April 27, 2010

First off, this is a great school. The after school chinese program is very good and forces the kids to learn. Parents who tend not to want to make an effort (because it is such a demanding school) don't send their kids here. As a result, most of the kids are well behaved and smart. Most parents are involved which helps the school be even better. The class work is very demanding, so the kids learn a lot. If you send your kids here, they will graduate very smart. My daughter is 6 years old can hold a conversation in mandarin. The graduating class trip was to China and The Chinese New Year show this past year was amazing!! The show was like a off-broadway production. Now, with the goods there are always bads. The school work is very demanding not to mention the day starts about 8:30 and ends about
—Submitted by a parent


Posted December 8, 2009

This program is really too rigorous and inflexible for 3-to-6 year olds. But my 6-year old is completely fluent in Mandarin, a language I do not speak. It is amazing to watch him understand and respond when spoken to in Chinese. Families have to be completely committed to this program as a lifestyle. If they are willing to accept the many drawbacks and if they prioritize bilingual education they will be happy with the school.
—Submitted by a parent


Posted November 14, 2009

Parent that admits their children into this school knows the long hours, academic challenge, high expectations from students, teachers and parents. We work together as a team. Graduates return to school to thank teachers and Ms Lingling, principal, for their hard work.
—Submitted by a parent


Posted November 5, 2009

My Child go there, she are very happy and like this school. she told me she like her classmates and teacher ms. william.
—Submitted by a parent


Posted November 5, 2009

It is a fantastic dual language school. All the staffs and teachers are kindly. Parents are nice, and she can learn both English and Chinese.
—Submitted by a parent


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The Community Rating is the school’s average rating from its community members (e.g., parents, students, and school staff). The highest possible rating is five stars; the lowest is one star.

The test results by subgroup show how the designated group of students is performing in comparison to the general population.
English Language Arts

The state average for English Language Arts was 32% in 2014.

72 students were tested at this school in 2014.

2014

 
 
62%

2013

 
 
49%

2012

 
 
81%
Math

The state average for Math was 42% in 2014.

72 students were tested at this school in 2014.

2014

 
 
82%

2013

 
 
68%

2012

 
 
96%
Scale: % proficient or advanced

About the tests


Beginning in the 2012-2013 school year, the New York State Department of Instruction implemented new assessments designed to be aligned with the Common Core State Standards. The new standards for proficiency in these subjects are higher than in previous years and the percent of students earning a proficient score is expected to be lower as a result of this change. See this letter from New York's Commissioner of Education for more information on these changes.

In 2013-2014 New York used the New York State Assessments to test students in grades 3 through 8 in English language arts and math, and in grades 4 and 8 in Science. At present 2013-14 results are available only for English language arts and math. The tests are standards-based, which means they measure how well students are mastering specific skills defined for each grade by the state of New York. The goal is for 90% of students to meet or exceed grade-level standards on the tests.

Source: New York State Education Department

English Language Arts

The state average for English Language Arts was 33% in 2014.

84 students were tested at this school in 2014.

2014

 
 
66%

2013

 
 
63%

2012

 
 
81%
Math

The state average for Math was 43% in 2014.

83 students were tested at this school in 2014.

2014

 
 
86%

2013

 
 
82%

2012

 
 
99%
Science

The state average for Science was 90% in 2013.

70 students were tested at this school in 2013.

2013

 
 
95%
Scale: % proficient or advanced

About the tests


Beginning in the 2012-2013 school year, the New York State Department of Instruction implemented new assessments designed to be aligned with the Common Core State Standards. The new standards for proficiency in these subjects are higher than in previous years and the percent of students earning a proficient score is expected to be lower as a result of this change. See this letter from New York's Commissioner of Education for more information on these changes.

In 2013-2014 New York used the New York State Assessments to test students in grades 3 through 8 in English language arts and math, and in grades 4 and 8 in Science. At present 2013-14 results are available only for English language arts and math. The tests are standards-based, which means they measure how well students are mastering specific skills defined for each grade by the state of New York. The goal is for 90% of students to meet or exceed grade-level standards on the tests.

Source: New York State Education Department

English Language Arts

The state average for English Language Arts was 30% in 2014.

62 students were tested at this school in 2014.

2014

 
 
60%

2013

 
 
75%

2012

 
 
95%
Math

The state average for Math was 40% in 2014.

62 students were tested at this school in 2014.

2014

 
 
73%

2013

 
 
79%

2012

 
 
100%
Scale: % proficient or advanced

About the tests


Beginning in the 2012-2013 school year, the New York State Department of Instruction implemented new assessments designed to be aligned with the Common Core State Standards. The new standards for proficiency in these subjects are higher than in previous years and the percent of students earning a proficient score is expected to be lower as a result of this change. See this letter from New York's Commissioner of Education for more information on these changes.

In 2013-2014 New York used the New York State Assessments to test students in grades 3 through 8 in English language arts and math, and in grades 4 and 8 in Science. At present 2013-14 results are available only for English language arts and math. The tests are standards-based, which means they measure how well students are mastering specific skills defined for each grade by the state of New York. The goal is for 90% of students to meet or exceed grade-level standards on the tests.

Source: New York State Education Department

English Language Arts

The state average for English Language Arts was 29% in 2014.

38 students were tested at this school in 2014.

2014

 
 
71%

2013

 
 
79%

2012

 
 
89%
Math

The state average for Math was 38% in 2014.

40 students were tested at this school in 2014.

2014

 
 
78%

2013

 
 
86%

2012

 
 
96%
Scale: % proficient or advanced

About the tests


Beginning in the 2012-2013 school year, the New York State Department of Instruction implemented new assessments designed to be aligned with the Common Core State Standards. The new standards for proficiency in these subjects are higher than in previous years and the percent of students earning a proficient score is expected to be lower as a result of this change. See this letter from New York's Commissioner of Education for more information on these changes.

In 2013-2014 New York used the New York State Assessments to test students in grades 3 through 8 in English language arts and math, and in grades 4 and 8 in Science. At present 2013-14 results are available only for English language arts and math. The tests are standards-based, which means they measure how well students are mastering specific skills defined for each grade by the state of New York. The goal is for 90% of students to meet or exceed grade-level standards on the tests.

Source: New York State Education Department

English Language Arts

The state average for English Language Arts was 29% in 2014.

59 students were tested at this school in 2014.

2014

 
 
90%

2013

 
 
73%

2012

 
 
96%
Math

The state average for Math was 33% in 2014.

59 students were tested at this school in 2014.

2014

 
 
91%

2013

 
 
78%

2012

 
 
100%
Scale: % proficient or advanced

About the tests


Beginning in the 2012-2013 school year, the New York State Department of Instruction implemented new assessments designed to be aligned with the Common Core State Standards. The new standards for proficiency in these subjects are higher than in previous years and the percent of students earning a proficient score is expected to be lower as a result of this change. See this letter from New York's Commissioner of Education for more information on these changes.

In 2013-2014 New York used the New York State Assessments to test students in grades 3 through 8 in English language arts and math, and in grades 4 and 8 in Science. At present 2013-14 results are available only for English language arts and math. The tests are standards-based, which means they measure how well students are mastering specific skills defined for each grade by the state of New York. The goal is for 90% of students to meet or exceed grade-level standards on the tests.

Source: New York State Education Department

English Language Arts

The state average for English Language Arts was 36% in 2014.

59 students were tested at this school in 2014.

2014

 
 
78%

2013

 
 
76%

2012

 
 
98%
Math

The state average for Math was 22% in 2014.

59 students were tested at this school in 2014.

2014

 
 
91%

2013

 
 
91%

2012

 
 
100%
Science

The state average for Science was 69% in 2013.

55 students were tested at this school in 2013.

2013

 
 
98%
Scale: % proficient or advanced

About the tests


Beginning in the 2012-2013 school year, the New York State Department of Instruction implemented new assessments designed to be aligned with the Common Core State Standards. The new standards for proficiency in these subjects are higher than in previous years and the percent of students earning a proficient score is expected to be lower as a result of this change. See this letter from New York's Commissioner of Education for more information on these changes.

In 2013-2014 New York used the New York State Assessments to test students in grades 3 through 8 in English language arts and math, and in grades 4 and 8 in Science. At present 2013-14 results are available only for English language arts and math. The tests are standards-based, which means they measure how well students are mastering specific skills defined for each grade by the state of New York. The goal is for 90% of students to meet or exceed grade-level standards on the tests.

Source: New York State Education Department

In 2009-2010, this school was given a grade of "A" for the elementary and middle school level.

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Progress Report Grades measure the school's contribution to student learning in three areas: School Environment, Student Performance and Student Progress. Schools can receive additional credit for achieving exemplary performance progress among high-needs students. Progress Report Grades range from A to F.

Source: New York City Department of Education

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Student ethnicity

Ethnicity This school State average
Asian or Asian/Pacific Islander 2 81% 9%
White 1 8% 48%
Hispanic 1 6% 23%
Black 2 4% 19%
American Indian/Alaska Native 1 1% 1%
Two or more races 2 0% 1%
Source: NYSED, 2011-2012
Source: 2 NCES, 2011-2012

Student subgroups

  This school District averageState average
Limited English proficient 211%N/A8%
Students eligible for free or reduced-price lunch program 271%N/A43%
Source: 1 NCES, 2011-2012
Source: 2 NYSED, 2011-2012

Teacher experience

  This school District averageState average
Fewer than 3 years experience 5%N/A5%
Source: NYSED, 2011-2012

Teacher education levels

  This school District averageState average
Master's degree and above 50%N/A39%
Source: NYSED, 2011-2012

Teacher credentials

  This school District averageState average
Teachers with no valid teaching certificate 0%N/A0%
Source: NYSED, 2011-2012
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Category scores for each of the respondent groups are then combined to form overall category scores. Alongside the results for each school are the aggregated results across all NYC public schools, which are provided as a basis for comparisons.

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This school
7.5
out of 10
 
City average
8.0
out of 10
 

Parents

This school

 
7.7
 

City average

 
8.4
 

Students

This school

 
7.5
 

City average

 
7.2
 

Teachers

This school

 
7.2
 

City average

 
8.0
 
Clear, useful communication about educational goalsWhat's this?

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This school
6.9
out of 10
 
City average
8.1
out of 10
 

Parents

This school

 
7.8
 

City average

 
8.5
 

Students

This school

 
7.3
 

City average

 
7.8
 

Teachers

This school

 
5.5
 

City average

 
7.8
 
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This school
6.6
out of 10
 
City average
7.8
out of 10
 

Parents

This school

 
7.1
 

City average

 
8.1
 

Students

This school

 
6.8
 

City average

 
7.2
 

Teachers

This school

 
5.8
 

City average

 
7.8
 
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This school
7.4
out of 10
 
City average
8.2
out of 10
 

Parents

This school

 
7.4
 

City average

 
8.3
 

Students

This school

 
8.0
 

City average

 
8.1
 

Teachers

This school

 
6.8
 

City average

 
8.1
 

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Parents32765%
Students178100%
Teachers2668%

12012-2013 New York City Department of Education School Survey

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