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Nyc Lab Ms For Collaborative Studies

Public | 6-8 | 575 students

 
 

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Posted September 8, 2014

Do NOT send your child to Lab Middle School if he/she has an IEP. Lab Middle School is an excellent school for students who excel academically, are good test takers and independent workers. The work is fast paced, demanding and test focused. Students who have difficulty with attention or learning disabilities will get lost in the shuffle at Lab. While there are a few teachers who are compassionate and helpful, many teachers, including the special education teachers, seem to lack psychological insight. For instance, my son was told There will always be distractions in life. It is up to you to ignore them . He was not then given tools to help with this goal. Would you tell someone who is hard of hearing that he needs to listen better? My husband and I had to frequently intervene and advocate on our son s behalf. I talked to other parents, who also felt unsupported at Lab. Lab prides themselves on their values of pluralism, diversity and long history of working with students with special needs. They need to market themselves for what they actually are: a competitive, demanding school for students who excel academically.
—Submitted by a parent


Posted September 8, 2014

We had very high hopes for Lab, but have really been disappointed. I think they are living off old reputation. Our son had a few bad experiences and every time Lab administration let us down.
—Submitted by a parent


Posted September 7, 2014

While I recognize that all experiences are different, I have to respectfully disagree with the last post about children with IEPs. I have an eighth grader at LAB with an IEP, and the experience has been fantastic. He has been challenged, without doubt, but that is what we wanted. He has likewise been supported, and all of his special ed teachers have been very sensitive and flexible. I feel so grateful that LAB was there as an option for a child like ours because he is proud to be a part of such a strong school, is pushed to his full potential, and feels supported for what challenges him. We couldn't have chosen a better school for him.
—Submitted by a parent


Posted September 7, 2014

Lab Middle School is a very demanding and top rated school with a weak IEP program. Experiences are different and I would say that as a parent of a child with learning disabilities who attended Lab, Lab's IEP program is not very good. And this is as per the Board of Education's evaluation of my son's IEP and how information was missing from it and how much was not done to support him throughout each school year. it was a struggle and very draining and at times I didn't feel like some of the teachers had the proper training and psychological insight to be in special education. Experiences vary and mine was not a good one but not because I think Lab is bad school but because their IEP program is weak.
—Submitted by a parent


Posted August 29, 2013

I am a current student at this school, and I have to say that Lab is amazing. It has great resources, great teachers (mostly), and great students. The atmosphere is competitive, but teachers try to make it as compassionate as they can. First, the teachers teach what they know to be necessary for a young adult growing up. They teach us things that relate to our lives and help us along. They also make lessons interesting instead of boring and monotonous. We learn while enjoying ourselves, which is the best environment a teacher can make. Next, the students are amazing individuals. I have made many friends during my time at Lab that I know I will never forget. Finally, the school library is enormous, with ample space for students to study or do homework, and a massive collection of good books. The library also has the textbooks students need for their classes, so if you need a textbook you can always have one. Overall, the only con I would say exists is sharing the school with two other schools, which doesn't even affect the environment at Lab. I'm a Labbie and I'm proud of it :)


Posted January 23, 2013

I'm currently a student in Lab Middle School and I think this school is amazing. There is a lot of pressure to do well, especially in the seventh grade as we prepare for high school admission tests. You will often hear that "everything counts!". Sixth grade was definitely more of a time to settle in and get to know people, and by the time you are in seventh you will know how to manage your time and do your work efficiently. I still feel a lot of pressure to do well in school and oftentimes this leads to stress. That is basically the only downside to Lab. The teachers are (usually) great, we don't have more than an hour and half to two hours of homework a night and the classes are interesting. I still give this school a four star rating because at Lab, there is always room to improve.


Posted April 3, 2012

Here's a statistic that shows how great the school/teachers are and the caliber of student at Lab MS. There are about 190 students in the current 8th grade (2011-2012). 131 of the students got accepted into one of the nine Specialized High Schools in NYC. Of those students 46 got into Stuyvesant High School. WOW!
—Submitted by a parent


Posted June 21, 2011

I am presently an 8th grade parent at Lab and I must say 8th Grade is the worse year at Lab. 6th and 7th is rewarding,with remarkable teachers and a more nurturing "compassionate" environment with and stress level down. However 8th grade is a totally different story -- the 8th Grade Team just know how to punish (with their constant lunch & after school detentions and constant screaming at kids) and give non-stop homework. Since the first day of school the homework has been grueling until now -- the last week of school. Hours and hours of senseless homework, as if the teachers are compensating for something they are lacking. The Principal is rarely on the parents' side and is not open to criticism. Complaining doesn't help, they either increase the homework or increase the amount of punishing. Keeping kids for "lunch detention" happens daily to many many kids for the most minor infractions. I warn you it's going to be a miserable year if you're going into 8th grade at Lab! The bright side is the the terrific ever-smiling Art teacher Ms Rhinna who brings joy to their day and the best Parent Coordinator Marilyn Coston who always remains the kids pillar of support.
—Submitted by a parent


Posted April 19, 2011

I know my daughter is happy as she has ever been. The school is rigorous. She works hard and late into the evening on projects. Last weekend she was diligently working on cupcakes for her Spanish class. Translating her recipe into Spanish and providing samples for her classmates. Pleased that her Teachers have taken note of her the past two years and have enjoyed her as much as she them. I dearly hope she considers continuing on to the High School program there!
—Submitted by a parent


Posted November 1, 2010

Lab used to be the only game in town for MS choices back in the days. Now that there are the other very good MS choices, Lab still maintains its attraction for high achieving learners. District 2 is lucky to have so many high performing MS. District 2 is a huge district so a lot of the UES population logically prefers ESM due to the proximity and ESM is a perfectly fine school. What makes Lab special is its collaborative culture and the schools' engaging teachers and students. The PA evolved to support the school programs once again after the separation from the HS a few years ago and the negativity as a result of that. Everyone is back on track to support the school community and focuses on the MS program.
—Submitted by a parent


Posted October 17, 2010

The Lab School has a clear vision of building the school community and the character of it's student. Collaboration is the name of the game.
—Submitted by a parent


Posted November 7, 2009

LAB is a pretty good school. The building itself is pretty hidious, but the teachers are great. They are all young, enthusiastic and outgoing teachers, and all seem to enjoy teaching, however good they are at it. cons: The gym class is not especially productive. I am in 7th grade and we are doing the same things as we did last year, which is basketball... (I must say i'm not a big fan of that sport...) We share a building with the LAB highschool and another highschool which is called Museum School. The LAB highschool kids are fine, but the Musuem school is terrifing. Everyone always stays on their own floors however. Ugly yard. Pros: Very good Math teachers! Science teachers for my grade are all fantastic. We learn! We are def. challenged! We get tests 2 times a week at least. Great kids! Nice gym! (despite the class) After 7th grade we go out-to-lunch.
—Submitted by a student


Posted February 21, 2008

While this school is a competent school and supposedly one of the best in NYC it has its shortcomings. The environment isn't very supportive--it's almost sink or swim. The classes are around 34 students but there are some exceptional, dedicated teachers here--the rest are OK. Academics overall are fine.
—Submitted by a student


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The test results by subgroup show how the designated group of students is performing in comparison to the general population.
English Language Arts

The state average for English Language Arts was 29% in 2014.

191 students were tested at this school in 2014.

2014

 
 
82%

2013

 
 
84%

2012

 
 
96%
Math

The state average for Math was 38% in 2014.

191 students were tested at this school in 2014.

2014

 
 
95%

2013

 
 
92%

2012

 
 
97%
Scale: % proficient or advanced

About the tests


Beginning in the 2012-2013 school year, the New York State Department of Instruction implemented new assessments designed to be aligned with the Common Core State Standards. The new standards for proficiency in these subjects are higher than in previous years and the percent of students earning a proficient score is expected to be lower as a result of this change. See this letter from New York's Commissioner of Education for more information on these changes.

In 2013-2014 New York used the New York State Assessments to test students in grades 3 through 8 in English language arts and math, and in grades 4 and 8 in Science. At present 2013-14 results are available only for English language arts and math. The tests are standards-based, which means they measure how well students are mastering specific skills defined for each grade by the state of New York. The goal is for 90% of students to meet or exceed grade-level standards on the tests.

Source: New York State Education Department

English Language Arts

The state average for English Language Arts was 29% in 2014.

180 students were tested at this school in 2014.

2014

 
 
84%

2013

 
 
88%

2012

 
 
92%
Math

The state average for Math was 33% in 2014.

180 students were tested at this school in 2014.

2014

 
 
94%

2013

 
 
90%

2012

 
 
98%
Scale: % proficient or advanced

About the tests


Beginning in the 2012-2013 school year, the New York State Department of Instruction implemented new assessments designed to be aligned with the Common Core State Standards. The new standards for proficiency in these subjects are higher than in previous years and the percent of students earning a proficient score is expected to be lower as a result of this change. See this letter from New York's Commissioner of Education for more information on these changes.

In 2013-2014 New York used the New York State Assessments to test students in grades 3 through 8 in English language arts and math, and in grades 4 and 8 in Science. At present 2013-14 results are available only for English language arts and math. The tests are standards-based, which means they measure how well students are mastering specific skills defined for each grade by the state of New York. The goal is for 90% of students to meet or exceed grade-level standards on the tests.

Source: New York State Education Department

English Language Arts

The state average for English Language Arts was 36% in 2014.

184 students were tested at this school in 2014.

2014

 
 
84%

2013

 
 
86%

2012

 
 
92%
Math

The state average for Math was 22% in 2014.

74 students were tested at this school in 2014.

2014

 
 
65%

2013

 
 
95%

2012

 
 
99%
Science

The state average for Science was 69% in 2013.

179 students were tested at this school in 2013.

2013

 
 
95%
Scale: % proficient or advanced

About the tests


Beginning in the 2012-2013 school year, the New York State Department of Instruction implemented new assessments designed to be aligned with the Common Core State Standards. The new standards for proficiency in these subjects are higher than in previous years and the percent of students earning a proficient score is expected to be lower as a result of this change. See this letter from New York's Commissioner of Education for more information on these changes.

In 2013-2014 New York used the New York State Assessments to test students in grades 3 through 8 in English language arts and math, and in grades 4 and 8 in Science. At present 2013-14 results are available only for English language arts and math. The tests are standards-based, which means they measure how well students are mastering specific skills defined for each grade by the state of New York. The goal is for 90% of students to meet or exceed grade-level standards on the tests.

Source: New York State Education Department

In 2009-2010, this school was given a grade of "A" for the middle school level.

About the tests


Progress Report Grades measure the school's contribution to student learning in three areas: School Environment, Student Performance and Student Progress. Schools can receive additional credit for achieving exemplary performance progress among high-needs students. Progress Report Grades range from A to F.

Source: New York City Department of Education

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GreatSchools Ratings for this school are based on 2012-2013 test results. Use the breakdown ratings below to compare types of students at this school. Learn more »


Student ethnicity

Ethnicity This school State average
Asian or Asian/Pacific Islander 1 48% 9%
White 1 34% 48%
Hispanic 2 11% 23%
Black 1 4% 19%
Two or more races 2 3% 1%
American Indian/Alaska Native 1 1% 1%
Source: NCES, 2011-2012
Source: 2 NYSED, 2011-2012

Student subgroups

  This school District averageState average
Limited English proficient 10%N/A8%
Students eligible for free or reduced-price lunch program 236%N/A43%
Source: 1 NYSED, 2011-2012
Source: 2 NCES, 2011-2012

Teacher experience

  This school District averageState average
Fewer than 3 years experience 6%N/A5%
Source: NYSED, 2011-2012

Teacher education levels

  This school District averageState average
Master's degree and above 35%N/A39%
Source: NYSED, 2011-2012

Teacher credentials

  This school District averageState average
Teachers with no valid teaching certificate 0%N/A0%
Source: NYSED, 2011-2012
The NYC Department of Education asked parents, teachers and students about their school's learning environment. Results provide insight into school climate, such as whether the school is academically rigorous, safe, communicative and collaborative. Learn more

The information captured by the survey is designed to support a dialogue among all members of the school community about how to make the school a better place to learn. An overall category score is calculated for each respondent group (parents, teachers, or students) by averaging the scores of the questions within that survey category.

Category scores for each of the respondent groups are then combined to form overall category scores. Alongside the results for each school are the aggregated results across all NYC public schools, which are provided as a basis for comparisons.

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A safe and respectful environmentWhat's this?

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8.5
out of 10
 
City average
8.0
out of 10
 

Parents

This school

 
8.5
 

City average

 
8.4
 

Students

This school

 
8.3
 

City average

 
7.2
 

Teachers

This school

 
8.5
 

City average

 
8.0
 
Clear, useful communication about educational goalsWhat's this?

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This school
8.1
out of 10
 
City average
8.1
out of 10
 

Parents

This school

 
8.5
 

City average

 
8.5
 

Students

This school

 
8.0
 

City average

 
7.8
 

Teachers

This school

 
7.7
 

City average

 
7.8
 
Strong parent, teacher and student engagementWhat's this?

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This school
8.0
out of 10
 
City average
7.8
out of 10
 

Parents

This school

 
8.1
 

City average

 
8.1
 

Students

This school

 
8.1
 

City average

 
7.2
 

Teachers

This school

 
7.7
 

City average

 
7.8
 
High academic expectations for all studentsWhat's this?

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This school
8.3
out of 10
 
City average
8.2
out of 10
 

Parents

This school

 
8.5
 

City average

 
8.3
 

Students

This school

 
8.6
 

City average

 
8.1
 

Teachers

This school

 
7.9
 

City average

 
8.1
 

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 RespondentsResponse rate
Parents34564%
Students55099%
Teachers3394%

12012-2013 New York City Department of Education School Survey

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