Students enrolled 690
School leader MS. IRIS CHIU

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327 Cherry St
New York, NY 10002

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4 stars
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September 10, 2014
I recently posted a review about P.S. 184 Shuang Wen and it was removed. I find this disturbing as I neither named anyone nor attacked anyone by name. My information was accurate and if it can be proven wrong please let the complainant supply the evidence. As to my comments The Blue Ribbon Application was riddled with inaccuracies, the former administrator used her position to single out and attack students; and students were removed for entering the school out of district. As far as my comments about the D.O.E. I maintain that any success achieved by students is due to outstanding parents, outstanding teachers outstanding students and some outstanding principals; and not due in the majority of cases to the D.O.E. We have a problem with truth in this country as up until recently we had more myth than history taught in the schools. I would hope that if this blog is seeking honesty then it would check the veracity of my statements rather than remove them because of a small groups hysterical responses.

- submitted by a parent
September 05, 2014
Since former principal and founder has been removed 3 years ago the school suffered a sudden change. One beautiful thing left is the after school SWAN, an outstanding Mandarin Chinese 501-C3 nonprofit organization that operated in conjunction with PS 184 since 1996, and with PS 184 earned a Federal Blue Ribbon Award, for program excellence. It should be common sense to envision this system as a model. In 2011 the system switched from full time English daytime program with Chinese SWAN afterschool, to a 50/50 English/Chinese daytime and SWAN afterschool, cutting 50% of the English taught during regular school hours, with a drop in ELA tests performance. PS 184 used to be among the first 10 performing schools in NY State ranking for combined 3rd and 4th grade Math and English, In 2010-2011 it was on 23rd place, 2011-2012 fell to 80th, in 2012-2013 to 83rd place, 2013-2014 53rd. Some people may love the new system and new principal, some may like a 50/50 dual language at daytime with new afterschool with alternative activities. Many teachers left and parents pulled their kids. It's just sad to see that the priority of the school is not our kids education.

- submitted by a parent
September 05, 2014
The school is facing a revolution in schedule, approach and teaching system that not necessarily is worse than before, certainly still needs to prove the academic level reached in the past. Below comments show a real fight between supporter of the 2 systems and leadership, the nostalgic miss the structure, strictness and discipline of a selective high performing environment, as in most G&Ts, the others welcome a more encouraging, fun environment. Let's move on, enhancing and improving without destroying a great heritage, i.e. keep and sponsor the awarded after school SWAN, introduce more physical activities, art, theatre but please something more challenging and professional than shadow box!

- submitted by a parent
September 04, 2014
since the new principal came in half of theaters left, not only parents pulled their kids from the school. It was better before.

- submitted by a parent
April 29, 2014
P.S. 184 is a school in transition. Although there are a few parents left from the old administration the school is moving into new areas of growth. It is using the Shadow Box Theatre and other unique programs that bring children into a learning fun environment. The D.O.E. needs to reach out to this Principal and give her the support she deserves and needs. There will be some leaving but those who truly want a Dual language education will help to make it grow and be strong. The parents who don't want a Dual Language school should leave instead of trying to sabotage the school and it's program. I for one have suggested certain programs like the Jump Program and The Algebra Project to help children learn mathematics from early fractions to Algebra and beyond. I hope that the school grows but this can only happen when those who seek to sabotage and destroy are removed.

- submitted by a parent
April 12, 2014
the school has stabilized. teachers are great. my kids are fluent bilingual chinese speakers. love it!

- submitted by a parent
April 12, 2014
Finally a permanent principal has been appointed to this school--that is helping to stabilize things after a hard couple of years. I appreciate Iris Chiu and all she has done to follow DOE's orders to transform this school into a bilingual program within the DOE hours. It's been a tough ride, but we're there now!

- submitted by a parent
March 20, 2014
Excellent teachers and principle who set high academic expectations for the students, but who are warm and supportive along the way.

- submitted by a parent
January 23, 2014
Shuang Wen under the current leadership is A BREATHE of FRESH INNOVATIVE AIR. I appreciate Prinicpal Iris Chiu and I empathize with her due to the constant harrassment and ill treatment from previous parents who were unhappy with change. She is doing a wondeful time with our children, it is a shame that some parents need more work than the children in the realm of self restraint and intellectual discourse. Principal Chiu during this uncomfortable transition has maintain her professionlism and our children were able to achieve the same rating on Standardized Testing which kept Shuang Wen under good standing. Every School community there is room for improvement.

- submitted by a parent
October 01, 2013
Still a great school despite sub par leadership - As much as I miss last administration I think this is still a very good school. My opinion is that the old system with SWAN after school is better than this 50/50 bilingual system. I respect parents' decision in taking their kids out of the school because they have no faith in the current prinicipal. However I want to ask these parents to stop saying the school is "not good anymore" and that all the "good" teachers left the school. Show some respect for the people that are still in the school and the many teachers that are still trying to help our kids. From what I see, the teachers at this school are all working hard and they don't deserve that. As for Ms. Iris Chiu, you cannot gain our respect by trying to stay out of trouble by putting up a wall. You need to be more involved, know your students, know your teachers and motivate everyone. This is your chance to prove all those parents who left the school wrong!

- submitted by a parent
September 30, 2013
It's sad to say, but previous comments are true. This school needs better leadership. Issues need to be addressed in real time. Every parent should feel that their voice counts and that their child is safe. Children should be pushed but not to the extreme.

- submitted by a parent
August 11, 2013
There is no Principal leadership in this school. She hides behind closed doors. Both the parents and the children do not know who the principal is. It's a shame. This is the first school I have been to where the Principal doesn't even partake in school activities or events. She only shows face when its to her benefit. She wont allow Parent participation because she is afraid the parents will find something. If the Principal allowed the parents to be more involved things would be a lot different. Grades have dropped drastically, incidents go unreported. Bullying is not addressed. This was a great school and is failing more and more each year. We need a new principal. Iris Chiu is not it. Our children need someone who knows them and cares for them. NOt one who pushes issues under the rug. Give our kids what they deserve. A fair chance at a GREAT education.

- submitted by a parent
August 01, 2013
from the number of students and teaching staffs leaving the school, i am sure that the current principal is not doing a good job. She only helps those that stands on her side and not doing ANYTHING for the school. When Ms. Ling Ling was there, she interacts with EACH student and she can call out EVERYONE of their names so easily. We really miss our previous principal and we are happy that she won the case finally!

- submitted by a parent
December 12, 2012
SWAN students with a score of 600 or above for 6th, 7th, and 8th grade on Chinese SAT II prep test are 38%, 63%, and 68% respectively. Grades 1-5 took the Test of Chinese as a Foreign Language (TOCFL) for grades 6-8. Approximately 98% of 1st & 2nd grade students passed the CCCC Sprouting Level, which included 400 Chinese phrases. For grades 3-5, students took different levels based on their Chinese levels; 40% of student population passed the CCCC Seedling Level, which included 700 Chinese phrases, and another 41% of them passed the CCCC Blossoming Level, which included 1100 Chinese phrases. All of the 6th 8th grade students were assigned to take different test levels of TOCFL based on their Chinese levels. The TOCFL includes five levels: Level 1 to Level 5, which are equivalent to Novice Level, Intermediate-Low & Intermediate- Mid Level, Intermediate-High Level, Advanced-Mid Level, and Superior Level, respectively, based on the American Council on the Teaching of Foreign Languages (ACTFL) Proficiency Guidelines. The percentages of 6th-8th grade students passing Level 1 to Level 4 of TOCFL are 7%, 19%, 26%, and 6%, respectively, and two 8th grade students passed TOCFL Level 5!

- submitted by a parent
August 08, 2012
Need some opinion!! My child is going to Kindergarten this fall. She accepted by ps 184 and private school Transfiguration school NYC. I know both are good schools. I have a hard time making decision of which school for my child.Is there anybody give me some advise? Many Thanks

- submitted by a parent
September 23, 2011
Under our principal Ms.LingLing, Shuang Wen WAS a great school! no pain no gain. students must study very hard here. Since Ms.LingLing is not here,(2011 Sept) it is a big mess here. I rate this school 5 starts-- is for Ms.LingLing! Ms. LingLing we miss you much!

- submitted by a parent
August 22, 2010
Shuang Wen is a great school, but not for my child.The 2009-10 school year was her last. Although the teaching staff was great, there really is no plan for children struggling in Chinese.The already long day of 8:30 - 5:30 was extended to 8- 5:30 for extra Chinese tutoring.My daughter's hours in school exceeded my own work day! As she moved up in grades, her frustration only grew and as much as the idea of my child being fluent in Mandarin appealed to me, a burned out 8 year old did not.It was not an easy decision to move her, but I know it was the right one.Again, Shuang Wen is a great school for the right child. I don't feel like I didn't work hard enough as a parent, or my daughter did not do her part as a student, it just didn't work for her. Good luck!

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May 06, 2010
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- submitted by a parent
April 27, 2010
First off, this is a great school. The after school chinese program is very good and forces the kids to learn. Parents who tend not to want to make an effort (because it is such a demanding school) don't send their kids here. As a result, most of the kids are well behaved and smart. Most parents are involved which helps the school be even better. The class work is very demanding, so the kids learn a lot. If you send your kids here, they will graduate very smart. My daughter is 6 years old can hold a conversation in mandarin. The graduating class trip was to China and The Chinese New Year show this past year was amazing!! The show was like a off-broadway production. Now, with the goods there are always bads. The school work is very demanding not to mention the day starts about 8:30 and ends about

- submitted by a parent
December 08, 2009
This program is really too rigorous and inflexible for 3-to-6 year olds. But my 6-year old is completely fluent in Mandarin, a language I do not speak. It is amazing to watch him understand and respond when spoken to in Chinese. Families have to be completely committed to this program as a lifestyle. If they are willing to accept the many drawbacks and if they prioritize bilingual education they will be happy with the school.

- submitted by a parent
November 14, 2009
Parent that admits their children into this school knows the long hours, academic challenge, high expectations from students, teachers and parents. We work together as a team. Graduates return to school to thank teachers and Ms Lingling, principal, for their hard work.

- submitted by a parent
November 05, 2009
My Child go there, she are very happy and like this school. she told me she like her classmates and teacher ms. william.

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no rating November 05, 2009
It is a fantastic dual language school. All the staffs and teachers are kindly. Parents are nice, and she can learn both English and Chinese.

- submitted by a parent
no rating November 05, 2009
My grandchildren attend Shuang Wen School. I have met their principal and their teachers. They care about each child's progress academically and personally. My grandchildren speak English and Chinese. They are very happy and like their school. They are receiving a well rounded education in a supportive and caring environment.

- submitted by a parent
no rating November 04, 2009
PS 184 offers a bi-lingual education in Manadrin beginning at pre-K through 8th grade. I do not know of many other schools that offer such a curriculum.

- submitted by a parent
November 04, 2009
We have an excellent academic record and our test scores speak for themselves. Only one of a kind school in NY where children are immerse in the Manadrin five days a week from Pre K to 8th grade.

- submitted by a parent
no rating November 03, 2009
They are always happy to do funthings with the kids and they learn this in a playful way,the New Years show is the greatest show and the kids are the stars<with lots of help from their great teachers

- submitted by a parent
August 15, 2009
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- submitted by a student
July 15, 2009
This school is great and amazing

- submitted by a parent
June 21, 2009
This school offers up to 8 grade. I have two kids going there. There are a lot of merits. It's a nurturing school. I know my kids are safe there. The school is more than concerned than the parents on the kids' academic achievements. That's why they got 10 in testing rating. I can also see a little improvement in terms of their single-activity after school program. Besides learning Chinese from 3 to 5:30pm, some 2nd graders can learn to play keyboard for an hour or so on Fridays. They can also play an hour of tennis on Thursdays. The rest of the programs are drills and tests only. However, there are things that were really not presented nicely to the parents. Voluntary afterschool fees have changed to become mandatory. What happens if you don't pay, will you lose the seat in the school as well?

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June 14, 2009
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May 28, 2009
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- submitted by a parent
February 07, 2009
The school is okay but it has some cons. The school hours are too long from 8:30 a.m - 5:30 p.m. and there are no after school activities. And after school activities are important for all schools, because most high schools and colleges like athletes and if there is no sport activities it can effect the students because he/she may not get a scholarship. Also there are no clubs, instead there is mandarin classes, which is not really necessary. Clubs can help develop the student's growth and knowledge but learning a language is a waste of time because anyone can learn a language at another program. I'm not saying the school is bad because it's not. The discipline and test scores are good, but only if there were clubs and activities for all students, the school would have been better and more sucessful.

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no rating September 29, 2008
Shuand Wen is a very challenging school... The day is long and I would have to agree on the fact that they do stress the test scores a lot. I went to a school meeting and they mention it like it was a top priority, children do learn though and it's an investment you are giving your child, especially in this competitive world.

- submitted by a parent
September 21, 2008
Our child is very happy and she is learning a great deal already. The school ask a lot but the kids will benefit.

- submitted by a parent
September 18, 2008
My child attended ShuangWen for one year. We are very disappointed with the school. The teacher quality is poor. They have no patience for students. The school only cares about test scores, not students. We are glad we left the school.

- submitted by a parent
no rating March 04, 2008
I am the parent of a 6th grader at the Shuang Wen School. I have had my daughter in the school since kindergarten. I was happy about the school in the first few. However, I have seen a big change over the last 2 years. There is a lot of focus on the yearly test. There also has been a lack of parent participation. The school also has been displaying a lack of understanding for people of other cultures. I believe that these problems can be fixed as soon as they are acknowledged. Submitted by a parent

- submitted by a parent
no rating December 06, 2007
Shuang Wen is a decent school. There is no doubt about it. This school has a great Mandarin program. However, the staffs in the office have really bad manners toward the Asian parents who have no status or don't speak English. I guess this kind of behavior is really common in Chinese culture (?) It is really disappointing.

- submitted by a parent
November 30, 2007
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- submitted by a parent
September 30, 2007
Shuang Wen is a very good school but even better if the fit is right for your child. Because the day is long in the learning of the requisite NYS curriculum plus the Mandarin language and culture, not all children can cope with this rigor. One key might be for parents to really examine what their child can handle and be realistic about their needs and abilities, not just because they would like for their child to learn the Mandarin language. It is not a program for everyone, especially if parents cannot do their share in helping the students focus and support them in getting the work done. As for the after-school which depends on grants, donations and contributions, parents are asked for voluntary contributions to help in support of the program. There is no required fee.

- submitted by a parent
June 26, 2007
Shuang Wen is a Top School, parents fight to get there children in and to stay. The Day is long 8:30am-5:30pm next September that's being extended to 8:am to 5:30 pm. Math and Science will be taught in altering english and mandarin,(one full day english- one full day mandarin). Most of the Chinese teachers speak no or very little english and there is a feeper child for the afterschool- to pay the chinese portion which is not run by the board of ed but by the Dept. of Health. Class sizes are large, the gym is the auditorium. Sports and extracurricular activities are squeezed in the available day. It's an intense day,week, year for any child going there. Most families commute and hour or more each way. Children are cared for and they do learn. You have to decide for yourself and family what you're willing to sacrafice.

- submitted by a parent
February 01, 2007
My daughter has been in Shuang Wen since Kindergarten. She is presently in the third grade and this will be her last year. The chinese after school program is good but the teachers are pretty strict and the kids are tired by the time the afternoon rolls around. Overall I think the school needs to understand different cultures a little better. As far as my daughter is concerned she is doing well in English and Chinese but the long day is getting to her. I will be moving out of state at the end of this school year and I will continue her Mandarin education.

- submitted by a parent
June 16, 2006
Solid math and reading program, taught more in the traditional way. Math is Everyday Math but supplemented as necessary. I feel the kids know facts and answers but aren't necessarily encouraged to think for themselves. I hear too much 'I don't know' when asked a question that asks for their opinion. Music and dance mostly evolves around Chinese culture. The dance program is beautifully done. I think the whole program is great for children who enjoy structure and direction, not necessarily good for ones who are fidgetty and require extra attention. There is a lot of repetition because that's what's needed to learn Chinese. Level of parent involvement is good but not up to par with Lab, 234 or NEST. Now that they have their own school gym will be offered more often. Overall, I would recommend, but only for the right child.

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Ps 184 Shuang Wen
327 Cherry St, New York, NY  10002
(212) 602-9700
Last modified Ps 184 Shuang Wen is a Public school that serves grades PK-8. It has received a GreatSchools rating of 10 out of 10 based on academic quality.
Ps 184 Shuang Wen Rating: 4 out of 5 based on 44 reviews. Top