« Back to compare
/ / School Profile
Public district
Queens, NY
Students enrolled: 966
Before care: No

Contact this school

81-14 257th Street
Queens, NY 11004

School website
(718) 831-4000
Nearby homes for sale
Map of Irwin Altman Middle School 172 address.

November 20, 2014
It's a good school. The new hours are very fitting now, it's 45 minutes lower than last year. The teachers teach the lessons with skill. I would recommend this school to many.

- submitted by a community member

April 29, 2014
school is very good specially the SP teacher get more involve in the student. student have first time common core and codex but thank to ela teacher she makes so easy.

- submitted by a parent

February 25, 2014
This school has a lot of extra classes to participate in like cooking,music,vocal,wood shop ,drama,computers,math games forensics and I haven't see any bullies or have been bullied but the principal should get invoked more and they re the good teachers, bad and extraordinary teachers. I ll miss this school and can't believe I'm graduating.

- submitted by a community member

June 16, 2013
I've been going here since September 2010 (my 6th grade year) and it has an absolute bullying problem. The dean in charge of helping, does not do his job. I've tried the principal and even the assisstant principal but none of them had helped either. Only two people are amazing at helping: A security guard and An 8th grade science teacher. I also don't like how I wasn't placed in Intergrated algebra. My strongest subject is Math and every year in elementary school, I scored a 4 but on the Ela I scored a high 3. This high 3 was one of the reasons I wasn't placed in sp. In seventh and Eighth grade I was placed in special help class "ex:731 or 831". This kind of helped me recieve 90% every marking period but the only thing I really wanted was to be in sp. The 8th grade assisstant principal, told my parents there was this "waitlist". Honestly, they need to switch the standards for sp. People in sp are failing and some non sp students are excelling. 3 months ago I found out I got into a specialized high school. I was ecstatic. A lot of people in my grade got into QHST, Van buren, Bayside and Francis Lewis though. If you want your child to go to an amazing hs pick a better school please!

- submitted by a community member

May 23, 2013
My daughter has attended this school since 6th grade. She has been bullied by another student for all three years. This girl has sent slandering text messages out about my daughter, has disseminated petitions with a list of children that "hate" my daughter, has thrown a shoe in her face, has isolated ny daughter socially on numerous occasions and lastly, tripped her on the senior trip, causing a sprained ankle. The school has been willing to meet with my husband whenever we have asked but has not had one consequence for the bully. They have their anti-bullying campaigns and posters all over the school but do not follow through on anything. Bullying, emotional and physical, seems to be accepted. I have another child in elementary school and I will most likely send her to Our Lady of the Snows for middle school. I don't feel that this school is a safe place for children and am looking forward to the end of the year and getting my daughter out of there.

- submitted by a parent

April 03, 2013
I think that MS172 is a very fine school. I am in 8th grade, in SP, and teachers really care about us passing our classes and Regents. In Foreign Language, we learn things that are meant to be taught in 10th grade. The SP ELA class is exactly like a 9th grade ELA class. The standard of work we do is really high. The Algebra I teacher is a pro on what he does. He's made us look at math from a different perspective. Social Studies is a breeze, you really learn History. The teachers, most of them, are caring and are there for you. The principal is the person most teachers and students don't like.

- submitted by a community member

February 19, 2013
Terrible school. Lazy teachers that don't teach. Disrespectful students who are so loud that even when teachers are actually teaching. I was in SP which is supposed to be honors and all of this stuff happened. Fights happen a lot and some kids do drugs. As someone said before me the kids do run the school. It didn't prepare me for high school at all.

- submitted by a community member

December 22, 2012
(Present student) First of all the teachers aren't really that great. Throughout my experience, there is about 2 or 3 teachers who will help you understand what you're working on. The rest are lazy, or don't teach The students, I think are the worst thing at this school. They lack respect towards basically everything. Since last year, about 3 fights have broke out, but were stopped quickly. One good thing there is always a security guard somewhere. There is some kids here who do drugs. Don't even get me started on the cleanliness of this school. It's horrid. There are bugs everywhere. The classes are divided into 3 diff. types. Extra help, Regular classes, and SP. I'm in SP and they say we are suppose to move quicker then the other classes but we don't. We should be a month ahead, but we're at the same pace. They also need to take certain students out of SP, who are failing, and replace them with kids from Extra help who have 94 averages. Overall, I would recommend trying to go to another school, such as 266, but if you have to come here, just keep studying and keep your distance from people you're uncomfortable around. Wish you the best of luck.

- submitted by a community member

February 29, 2012
Staff that works there are so unprofessional. I just called to speak to someone about registration and the lady who answered the phone was making fun of me (it was probably my accent) without even realizing that she didn't put me on hold yet. I asked the second person ,who was not polite either, "what is the persons name that answered the phone first?" She told me Ms. Burke. I have them on tape and it is going on YouTube

- submitted by a community member

February 23, 2012
i think this school is great. Im in 6th grade and so far i had a great year. I have a lot of new friends and the teachers are awesome.

- submitted by a community member

December 24, 2011
I transferred my kids out of school. The principal does not know what hes doing, the school environment was ranked a C- by the department of education. This schools environment is terrible, the kids basically run the school and the principal is not very involved in anything. Avoid putting your kids in this school. The old principal was much better.

- submitted by a parent

May 12, 2010
The kids don't like it because there is no free ride, the teachers are on to them. The teachers don't like it because there is no free ride, the principal is on to them. My son is graduating and all I can say is that my overall experience was quite good. I used to hear stories about the kids getting beat up and drugs and it scared me. I can tell you that there are drugs there but it is not prevalant. Fights happen rarely and are broken up quick. I found some teachers to be helpful and others were quite lazy but you get that in all schools. The principal knows most of the students by name, which is good. The way the general studies courses are picked is arcane and unfair.

- submitted by a parent
no rating
March 28, 2010
Since reading about this school, I expect a good education. I am looking forward to beginning Middle School here.

- submitted by a student
no rating
November 05, 2009
Many people believe that this school is not that great. However, in my perspective I thought it was a great school that taught me many things that I had never learned when I was in Private school. This school sharpened my academic skills. I do not regret my years here. The only reason why people don't like this school is that they might have gotten a bad grade there. Please ignore them since they are actually wrong.

- submitted by a student
no rating
August 01, 2009
As I prepare to go to highschool, I just need to say that this school did nothing to help me. In the end, I had to do it by myself. The years I was there, the teachers were terrible, they never do there jobs. Take my advise, go to private, transfer to louie pastuer, go to the nicer and newer queens teaching school, do what ever it takes to get out.

- submitted by a student

December 31, 2008
Im a current student at irwin altman middle school 172 and i need to say that its not really a good school.The teachers teach the same thing for about 2 months and the staff is really bad.The students never do what there told because there is no punishment.I think that this school isnt as good as people say it is.

- submitted by a student

December 24, 2008
A school where the principals leadership has failed. Stats are going down, as evidenced on the school report card, and the experienced teachers are leaving. Be careful.

- submitted by a parent

July 16, 2008
When I went to that school I had a wonderful experience! It was very diverse, and the learing experience was also very amazing. This school gave me a chance to express myself in many different ways. I hope everyone else thinks so too!

- submitted by a student
no rating
February 27, 2008
M.S.172 is a great school. My son (the oldest) is now in 9th grade and is going through it easily because the teachers in M.S1 72 care about the students future.Now my daughter goest to that school and made the honor roll thanks to all the teachers!

- submitted by a parent
no rating
August 10, 2007
its an amazing school. i graduated from their and i wish i could stay their with my teachers. there very loving and caring

- submitted by a student
no rating
August 05, 2007
I love this school! Ms172 is a very good school, the teachers there are very dedicated to their students and will help them in every way possible. All the teachers there have a very fun and unique way to teach their students in a way that the kids can't wait to go back to school and learn more.

- submitted by a student

April 04, 2005
It took more time to get to know my child's teachers. My child took time to get to adjust to the new environment. Then they started a new system of categorizing students into Academies; Science, Literature, Humanities. This initially confused the students, staff, and parents. Some of the teachers are highly motivated, others not. High school guidance info was not that great. I did my own research to get information. Arts and Music activities have been greatly reduced. No extra effort to prepare/motivate kids to challenge themselves to take SHSAT. Luckily my child passed the exam.

- submitted by a parent

Profile Completeness


Want to improve this school's profile?

All schools on GreatSchools begin with BASIC completeness, which includes important information like contact details and test scores. It’s up to the school community to take the next steps. As a parent or community member, you can share what you know with other families by writing a review or answering a few questions about what the school offers. As a school leader, you can upload photos, describe school programs, and more with an Official school profile.

The completeness meter moves to INTERMEDIATE, then ADVANCED, and finally HONOR ROLL as you complete the following: 10 or more reviews, at least 1 photo, and 9 program questions parents find helpful.

Want to improve this school’s profile? You can!
for Parents
for Schools
Need help choosing a school? We can help »

Media Gallery

Media missing

Uh oh! No photos. This frame will look much better when you upload photos »


Find out what parents are saying about Irwin Altman Middle School 172


Nearby homes for sale


Last modified: December 12, 2014

Sign up for email updates

Connect with us

Translate this web page

About GreatSchools

Our mission is to help millions of parents get a great education for their kids. GreatSchools.org is an independent nonprofit and the leading national source of school information for families.

GreatSchools.org 1999 Harrison Street, Suite 1100, Oakland, CA 94612

©1998-2015 GreatSchools.org All Rights Reserved. GreatSchools is a 501(c)(3) not-for-profit organization | Ad Choices

Irwin Altman Middle School 172
81-14 257th Street, Queens, NY  11004
(718) 831-4000
Last modified Irwin Altman Middle School 172 is a Public school that serves grades 6-8. It has received a GreatSchools rating of 9 out of 10 based on academic quality.
Irwin Altman Middle School 172 Rating: 3 out of 5 based on 36 reviews. Top