12/15/2011:
"I find it humorous that parents weigh in on such topics when they have never
set foot in a classroom. How can you possibly criticize the teachers and
schools when you do not know what actually goes on?
As a parent, I encourage my child to write. Her learning is not just going
to happen at school. She is not the only child in that class and there are
things beyond the teacher’s control that do prevent something’s from
happening. I as a PARENT extend the learning at home to ensure she has the
best possible education.
As a teacher, my students write. Daily. They will write for about fifteen
minutes in the beginning of class about a topic and their thoughts. They
also are required to write what we call�Critical Writing" every 5 days as
an assessment that they understand the content they are learning.
All of which make up 40% of the students' grade. However, the work that is
turned in is horrible. The majority of the students take 45 minutes to try
and figure out how to get out of the assignment. Constantly being asked,
"How long does it have to be", "Why do we have to do this" among other
comments and questions.
If I call home, the parent does not answer or I am told "it is your problem"
or "I don't have time for this" or "I don't care if they write"
And this you say is because of the teachers?
"
11/29/2011:
"I work in a highly technical environment where computers, networks,
programs and technology rule the day. However, I am consistently amazed by
the low literary standards and quality of many "educated" persons within
my industry. Poor writing begets poor communication and poor communication
leads to re-work, duplication of effort and therefore more time and
expense. Someday one of these bright persons will figure this out and
begin utilizing more "write-brain" persons in the "left-brain" dominated
IT industry. At least that's what I'm shooting for!
"
11/22/2011:
"I am very relieved to read this article. I have been struggling with
getting my son to be as good at writing as he is at reading, mathematics,
science, and ICT for several years now. While he was able to read, do
maths, understand science, and generate Power Point presentations as early
as age 3, his writing skills were abysmal. Instead of helping him to
improve, however, his then school told me to teach him to type. I did
this, but his writing skills were still almost non-existent. Now, in
another school, his teachers comment on how poor his writing skills are in
relation to his other academic abilities but, again, they give little in
the way of either practice or suggestion. So, I took it upon myself to
begin daily writing exercises with him. First, I used LINED paper,
something his school does not seem to use often, and had him write and,
importantly, re-write words until he could write clearly enough to have
his writing read by an outsider. I did not stop there, !
however. I also took and began having him write lists for such things as
What I would like for my birthday and The Super Powers I would most like
to have if I were a super hero. Then, as he began to bring home proper
non-fiction texts from school, I would not let him just run through
reading them (at the age of 6 he has the reading ability of an adult), but
would stop him after a few pages and make him write 5 sentences
(paraphrasing) about what he had just read. Finally, I reached a point
where I would ask him to write a paragraph or more to summarize things he
read, be they fiction or non-fiction, and to give his input as to what he
liked or did not like about them.
His writing is still not as high-level as his other skills but his
teachers have been left speechless at his ability to actually express
himself clearly and legibly without sticking to spelling tests or "high
frequency" words, for a purpose, rather than just to be getting on with
the work at hand.
It is very time consuming, sometimes frustrating, definitely tiring at
first, and he has thrown many a fit when I ask him to erase and start
again (especially when he has rushed through and the writing look like
chicken scratch), but it is working and it is making him not only a better
writer, but a better student all around.
I also make sure he sees me writing on a regular basis since, as we know,
we are the mold from which our children base themselves. If they only
ever see us type, they will never see writing as an important skill.
I continue to try to work with his school and advocate "writing for a
purpose" with his teachers, but only time will tell if they pursue this
line of thought and get all their students on the path of successful and
expressive writing.
"
11/21/2011:
"Our Kindergartener is learning - and sometimes really struggling - with
writing, but we've been trying to support the classwork with at-home
exercises. I'm adamant that we keep digital out and put the emphasis on
analog skills. There willl be plenty of time later for tech.
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I'm fully in support of teaching kids handwriting too!
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The ability to write without the aid of a machine is a fundamental human
capability, right up there with conscious thought, not quaint nostalgia.
"
11/17/2011:
""It always amazes me how educators link curriculum problems to a lack of
money and parents' lack of interest. Why is there always enough money for
teachers' benefits and programs in sex education and bullying and
diversity, but never enough money to ensure that children are prepared
academically for life after graduation? Seems to me that educators have it
backwards until the problem is so widespread that it can no longer be
ignored. "
I am so agree with the comment above. It looks like teachers do anything
but needed, and what easier.
I have experience of school in other country. Comon people, we had
reading, writing and math every day, and equally important. Also we had
about 30 student in class. By the end of 1st grade we learned by heart
times table, we could read and write cursive nicely. We had other
teachers, I miss them nuch, and I'm so sorry, my kids do not have such.
"
11/16/2011:
"Some people seem to be confusing handwriting with writing instruction.
This article is talking about writing instruction- not teaching cursive.
"
11/15/2011:
"We are not spending enough time in the area of writing, and our children
are not taking their time. It seem as if they are in a rush to get their
work done. I do believe, if the children take their time spending more
time writing the standard will increase. An even balance between writing
and typing will prove beneficial, and I can take this bit of advice
myself.
AFCMSVO/NAPSP
"
11/14/2011:
"The reason is quite simple. My son't 3rd grade teacher told me, because of
the computer, and other computer technology, such as the Blackberry. It's
only important for kids to master printing. Handwriting is no longer
important.
"
11/14/2011:
"It saddens me to know that our children are being short changed when it
comes to their education. Instead of taking away certain requirements
from our children, we need to find as many possibilities as we can to help
them succeed in life. I firmly believe that all of the subject matters
that was taught years ago should still be implemented in the classroom
today. Why not have the children write about their day and read what they
have written? There is no reason why the children cannot write a letter
to one of their peers and have that peer read the letter out loud. We as
parents and educators need to become more creative in how we teach. One
way to become creative is to incorporate as many subject matters into one
lesson as we can.
"
11/14/2011:
"It always amazes me how educators link curriculum problems to a lack of
money and parents' lack of interest. Why is there always enough money for
teachers' benefits and programs in sex education and bullying and
diversity, but never enough money to ensure that children are prepared
academically for life after graduation? Seems to me that educators have it
backwards until the problem is so widespread that it can no longer be
ignored.
"
11/14/2011:
"There are so many good comments here. I have one 18 year old no longer in
high school and twins who are in high school. I've been complaining for
years that the schools are not teaching.
My daughter is a straight 'A' student in honors classes yet her skills at
writing still lack what I would expect for a sophomore level high school
student.
Do you start blaming our elected representatives for cutting back on
funding for education? There's fewer teachers and more children per class.
Do you blame the education system itself? There is so much emphsasis on
teaching to the state standardized testing that writing seems to take a
backseat to the social studies and science.
Do you blame the teachers who give assignments and never bother to grade
them? Is part of the problem that children spend so much time on video
games that homework is done quickly so more time in the evening can be
spent playing their electronics? Are we, as parents, part of the problem
in that we're not spending enough time with the children to reinforce
proper writing skills?
My guess i that it's all of the above (ah, another multiple choice
question)?
When many of us were in school, years ago, there was considerable time
spent in junior high school teaching us the necessary research and writing
skills to compose well written research and essay papers. Two of my
children entered high school without ever having written an essay.
So, what's the solution?
"
11/14/2011:
"I teach writing in my first grade class everyday! We have a specific
writing time which lasts for about 40 minutes. I teach a writing lessons,
my students then have independent writing time while I teach small groups
on a writing concept or conference with individual children. Then we group
back up and summarize/share our writing. We also have another 20 minute
period of writing each day.
I do teach mechanics, such as, periods, spaces, capital letters.
So, before you write your next article, please do not make sure large
assumptions about all teachers.
"
11/14/2011:
"I'm horrified at the writing ability of some my kid's teachers, why would
I expect them to be able to teach the mechanics of good writing? That
aside, there seems to be so much focus on reading comprehension and not so
much on writing. Somebody must think our kids will learn to write by
osmosis. We have these idiotic "read-a-thons" where kids lose whole days
of instruction so they can read their favorite comic books during school.
They could spend that day doing intense 1-day writing seminars!
"
11/14/2011:
"that.s true. Too many children in one classroom.
Too many pc at home and school. Poor time,s parents to help them.
in my country in private schools they learn to spelling in english and
they do correctly and so in spanish, but I have to agree that when I was a
kid, we did many many homework writing and doing caligraphy.
"
11/14/2011:
"I take exception with the statement: "Of course, not every school ALLOWS its
teachers to skip what their students won’t be tested on..." Allows? As a
teacher of language arts and a student of rhetoric, I am deeply offended by
the blanket assumption that if we are not forced to teach writing, we won't
do it. It is, in fact, often the opposite scenario: if it's not on the test,
we are often questioned as to why we spend time on it. I have, in my 13
years, ALWAYS made writing a priority -- including the year I had 5 classes
of 38-45 students, and 3 course preps. I don't know if attacking teachers
was the writer's intent. If not, I'd suggest she learn a bit about writing
and select her words more carefully.
"
11/14/2011:
"Our school system says that don't teach writing anymore because the
writing SOL (VA Standards of Learning) will be given on computer anyway.
"
11/14/2011:
"Why such a brief mention of the Common Core Standards? Some states HAVE
implemented the Standards, and some already have very high standards.
I don't see in the article where Reeeves gets his data. The idea that
children are not writing is a sweeping generalization. Some of the
articles that you share seem to be presented as a fear tactic to use with
parents rather than true information about what is happening in the
schools. What do you have to back up your claim that, because of budget
cuts, some schools are retreating from writing? How many schools have you
visited? What research have you actually conducted? What a disappointing
article.
"
11/14/2011:
" The school my nephew goes to said he only needs to know how to print. I
think he needs to know how to write not just print. I am a caregiver for
my nephew "
11/14/2011:
"I am a high school English teacher in NC. We teach students to write to
the best of our ability. However, we are stymied for a number of reasons.
Our English class is only a semester long. Writing is a process and can't
be taught in a semester-long class very well. The students we get from
middle school know nothing of grammar and punctuation. Grading papers is a
time-consuming process. We are forced into so many meetings, so much
administrative paper-work, so many duties that the time devoted to grading
papers is seriously reduced. And the new generation of teachers in their
20s and 30s aren't willing to spend hours of time outside of class
grading.
"
11/14/2011:
"What nonsense! I completely disagree with the "expert" Douglas Reeves. As
a first grade teacher who has taught many years, I do teach writing, and
lots of it! We do the writing workshop approach with all the traits, and
by the time the students exit first grade, they are better writers than
students twenty or thirty years ago. In those years there were no
expectations. Schools and parents were happy if the children wrote four
complete basic sentences by June. In today's first grade the expectations
are very high. The students do all kinds of writing: personal narrative,
expository, persuasive, and so on. Now students are expected to be able to
write using detailed and colorful descriptions and word choice, point of
view,and more. A typical first grader is expected to write a
well-organized paper (beginning/middle/end for narrative, topic sentence/
supporting evidence/conclusion for expository text) conveying a clear
message with important details, sentence fluency and voice,!
as well as standard conventions for spelling and grammar. For you
parents who were in first grade twenty years ago, think back to what you
were writing then. There is no comparison.
"
11/16/2010:
"As a parent educated in another country, I'm so amazed that writing is not
part of the curriculum. When I was a child I had to take writing class
everyday, 5 days a week, and passing that class was part of the whole
grading, and writing in cursive was the requirement. I hated when my mom
used to tear out my homework when my writing was not clear and neat, but
now, I thank her for that. Now with this technology era, basic skills have
been swiped out of the map. Kids are more into games and computers,
leaving out other skills such as creativity and social. I think schools
should give a great attention to this. Writing is an essential tool, not
only for studies but for life too. I hope politicians will really
understand our concerns. We all want the best for our children, and
education plays the major roll. "
11/15/2010:
"I can summarize why children are not learning to write.
First, the number of students in a language arts class is staggering. Just
do the math: A teacher has 25 kids in a middle school LA class. The
teacher has 5 classes. Middle school students should be writing one essay
a week. Therefore, the teacher must wade through 125 essays a week. Now
throw in the fact that the students have had little or no training in
grammar, story development, sequential order, etc... How can one human
ever wade through this many papers with this many necessities that need to
be discussed? It is virtually impossible. As a result, the teacher becomes
overwhelmed and performs at the minimum standard.
In elementary school, the focus is reading, reading, reading. Even
learning basic math skills takes a back seat in many schools. Writing is
the red headed step child.
In my opinion, you can't teach a child to write unless they are required
to perform the task daily. Students today don't even know how to write in
cursive, much less write. Ask your child to write in cursive. It is no
longer formally instructed. If you want to try something else, ask your
child to respond to word problems in math by writing a sentence related to
the problem. Currently, only about 75% of my fourth and fifth graders are
able to do this effectively.
The solution to statements above is much smaller language arts classes
(12?) and holding teachers accountable. If class sizes were cut in half,
teachers could teach. However, you would still have the lazy teachers who
don't want to do the job right flocking to the smaller class size.
Therefore, all of the teachers should be held accountable. How? Principals
should manage not just turn the blind eye to ineffective teaching.
Secondly, students today are products of people who were 'socially
promoted.' The whole issue of 'pass first, remediate later' is ridiculous.
A student who lacks the skills for the beginning grade level they're
entering, should have been held back.
Holding students back is unpopular, because it is perceived as negative
and the school usually takes a funding hit. Really, a child should be held
back so they can master the required skills of the grade level. Ergo, we
now have a bunch of parents (for the most part) who lack basic skills and
cannot help their child if they wanted to. At least we can look a the
positive side of that last sentence: The schools that passed people who
couldn't function in a subject area still got funded.
Education in America today is ugly. All politicians say they're going to
'fix the system.' They lie. Education is about money, not actually
educating. Maybe concerns to 'fix the system' will surface when we're dead
last in the world. By that time, I don't think the emperor will want the
system fixed. Remember folks, forced ignorance is a form of repression of
a race. That's why it was illegal for a slave to learn to read."
09/22/2010:
"I just want to say I appreciate this article and all the comments very
much."
07/19/2010:
"When my 10th grade daughter was asked to underline the rhetorical devices
in one paragraph of Martin Luther King's 'I Have a Dream' speech, I told
her to read the whole speech and then write an essay explaining how
rhetorical devices made this an effective speech. I also insisted that
each paragraph began with a different sentence structure.
'That's not the assignment, Mama,' she said.
'You want to go to college don't you?' I responded.
She wrote the essay. The teacher never graded it. "
07/19/2010:
"My kids' middle school is still teaching writing. I hope it's not an
exception as mentioned in the article. As we know, writing is a very
important tool in training one to organize one's thoughts and to
communicate them with others. This summer, we have our kids check books
out from our local library, read and write an essay of any topic related
to those books. It doesn't cost anything, except time. Have a wonderful
summer. "
07/19/2010:
"I worked as a professional technical writer and then became a teacher. I
feel that writing in schools today is a disaster. Let's evaluate one thing
at a time: First, on test day, children in fourth grade are expected to
write a well-structured, comprehensive, five paragraph essay on a given
prompt whose content they have no clue; in a time period of 45 minutes.
The content of this essay is NOT to be formulaic. This, in itself, is
outrageous. In other words, we're asking our children to be ready for
'something,' but we don't know what it actually will be, on test day.
Then, make sure that you write about it using metaphors, similes,
transitions, advanced vocabulary, logical sequencing, killer opening and
closing paragraphs... but don't write in a way that can be interpreted as
'canned.' Talk about stress! A fourth grader is NINE years old.
Secondly, children are learning grammar instruction in sixth grade that I
learned in eighth grade. Grammar instruction starts getting serious and
boring in fourth grade. The level of grammar that a fourth grader is
equipped with prior to the big test is adequate, if they are able to learn
it all. Hence, kids get turned off to grammar at an early age. (Not that
it was ever that fun.)
Thirdly, student:teacher ratio. Flat out, it doesn't work. Teachers are
expected to carry a student load that is staggering when one thinks that
they are expected to manage and grade all of the papers. Let's take a
typical middle school teacher down here in Florida. We'll even follow the
'class size amendment' even though he will be saddled with more students
than that. If he has five classes of 25 students, that is a whopping 125
essays to wade through. The teacher is expected to oversee a process that
involves pre-writing, rough draft,editing, re-writing, editing, final
draft. To teach writing correctly, he will sit down at least two times
with each student to discuss the paper they have in progress.
In my private school, my student load last year was a total of 65 over 5
classes. When the time came to produce a non-fiction science paper, I sat
down with students every day to guide and discuss. The maximum number of
students I could turn was about 5 in a one hour class. This worked well,
but I was working like a dog. Sitting and working on essays with students
every day was required for this type of paper because of the content. It
was difficult for most of them.
Teaching Language Arts (not Reading) is one of THE MOST time consuming
skills a student will learn. Most teachers just don't have the time due to
number of students handled. It is just not humanly possible.
A solution would be to hire MORE Language Arts teachers in the schools.
Departmentalize that skill, so the teacher only teaches writing for a
designated period of time. Then distribute the students into classes of 10
- 12 for writing. If we took this measure, then students would be able to
write effectively."
07/19/2010:
"Sadly, it's reached the point that schools don't even teach proper grammar
anymore. Students in foreign countries, learning English as a second
language, get a better education in English grammar than our own children.
In my daughter's sophomore Honors English class, the teacher became so
frustrated that she put her curriculum on hold for two weeks so she could
teach the students grammar. That was an HONORS class, smart kids, who
couldn't write properly.
Saying the schools can't do everything is fair, but they really should
cover the fundamentals of reading, writing and arithmetic. "
07/19/2010:
"Everyone needs to be able to communicate thoughts and ideas. Writing is a
essential tool. Good writing comes from emulating good writing, which
comes from reading."
07/19/2010:
"I enjoyed this article very much. I am creating a writing porch at the
back of our house, a place to bring pen and paper, and dream. Writing is
magic, and in these days of testing, testing, testing, we are forgetting
that."
07/19/2010:
"Budget cuts have little to do with not teaching children to write. How can
teachers do it when many of them cannot write themselves. After 2
generations of poor teaching, what can you expect? My daughter attended a
state college in the mid 1980's. She had attended parochial school since
grade 5 and did a lot of writing in class. As a freshman in college, she
was one of the few that did not need to take remedial reading or writing.
Is it any wonder that our schools are in trouble?
Parents should not have to do the teachers' job, but that is what it has
come to. Instead of sex education, diversity education and all the art and
music to fill up the school day, there is a desperate need to go back to
basics. Until that is realized, traditional public schools will continue
to fail. It doesn't say much for our future unless we change it."