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The Dreaded FCAT is secretly causing the demise of our children. (FLA PARENTS)


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WriterMom April 16, 2008


I would be in total favor of banning the FCAT FOREVER if I could find someone to give me a dotted line to sign on.


My son has repeatedly failed the reading part of this moronic test, and now has to retake it yet AGAIN in 2 months. I refer to it as "moronic" because it's only purpose is to grade an entire school based on where 10th graders are at academically.  I fail to see the purpose of it when all I have seen is how much it stresses out my son every year. TWICE he has "almost" passed it. Once, by only 1 point. When I asked him why it's so hard to take, he said that the reading test doesn't have ANYTHING TO DO WITH what's being taught or has been taught to him in an actual classroom. Even though he said he purposefully studied for the reading test the last time he took it, and "guessed" at the math part. Ironically, he passed the math section with flying colors, only to fail the reading segment, yet again. Every year, he waits with shear dread for the results.


I never did well with reading comprehension "tests" either when I was in school. In fact, I was forced to take extra credit reading classes to help boost my grade point average so I would pass. It was humiliating, and always very stressful. I went through 12 years of school being scolded by my parents because my teachers labeled me as one who "would not apply myself." It didn't seem to matter that I always aced English, or that I excelled in other classes.  The one I always failed at got me in trouble.


Again, I call the FCAT "MORONIC" because I now write for a living, and my son is the Editor-in-Chief of his school newspaper. I am 46 years old, and never went to college for journalism, but yet I am a published author and smart enough to write for Disney.


Once my son became Editor-in-Chief of his high school newspaper, he decided to put his literary power to use.  He researched other school related academic achievements of hundreds of students, and wrote about it.  He made the "D" Stigma, (his school’s been given), on the cover page as well as the center spread, noting that being labeled a "D" school due to the FCAT scores does not make one a "D" student by any means.


He was called to the principal's office upon distribution, and thought he would receive a reprimand. Instead, the principal congratulated him on his story, and the truth behind it.


Just recently, he realized that the FCAT test is in April. His face lost all color when he said he hopes that the FCATs aren't going to be the same week as the Journalism State Competition in Tampa, or else, "I'll just kill myself." I was stunned, because my son never talks this way.


He has been preparing all year for this competition, and even paid his deposit on the trip. He'll be giving up Grad Night just so he can attend this event. It absolutely horrified me to hear him talk this way. 


Whatever "genius" thought up this asinine test needs to have his head examined. It's doing our kids more HARM than GOOD.  Since its birth, the FCAT has only had negative repercussions. It makes high school students feel bad about themselves if their school is labeled anything but an “A” school. If your school falls to an “F” it risks being closed down. (Like many here in south Florida). Thus, kids who hoped to graduate with their friends are displaced throughout an entire county, and/or waiting placement.


Failing FCAT causes low self esteem amongst students and their peers that may lead to depression, anxiety, and even a sense of hopelessness. Uncertain future comes into play for college bound students since their graduation is no longer secured by class work alone. I’ve been told that the higher the overall grade for the school, the more funding they receive from the state. Shouldn’t it be the other way around?? After all, wouldn’t we as parents and teachers run to the aide of a failing student before offering assistance to an “A” student? 


What message is this sending to our kids by constantly placing negative labels on them and their school?  Do school officials honestly expect THIS to improve school spirit? Do they expect THIS to boost student morale?  My son was awarded "A Honor Roll" last semester, with a GPA of 4.0. I can remember my high school years being some of the best times of my life, and I never had a GPA of 4.0. However, my son cannot say the same. He's been told that if he does not pass the FCAT this time around, he will not graduate. This, they're saying to a kid who has over 800 service hours, whereas, only 40 are required by end of senior year.   It won't  matter that he's an "A" student. If he fails the reading again, he'll be labeled a failure. Period. 


I rest my case.


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WriterMom April 7, 2008


This is an absolutely incredible forum. Many thanks to all you cheerleader moms out there with your words of encouragement!


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DeborahHamilto April 7, 2008


You are so welcome, and thank you. You have help me and my children understand more about this Dreaded Fcat. I just hope and pray we get rid of the fcat test one day.

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bigguy April 11, 2008


If your son fails the test again the problem is not the test. The problem is a combination of two issues. 1) Your sons teacher is not teaching the correct content. If your son can't pass the test...how does he get an A in class? The test is designed around the state standards so his class should address them. The class is obviously not awarding grades according to mastery of the state standards. The problem is in the content taught in class. 2) My assumption is that you talk negatively about the test in front of your child. This is doing ZERO for his personal responsibility. The tests are here to stay. Maybe you have found a good job without needing to take a test, but the vast majority of us are required to take tests to get a job - Doctors take the MCAT and lawyers take the LSAT and so on and so on. Talk to your son about the importance of tests and why we need them.

Do you want a doctor operating on you that couldn't pass the required tests. I think not. Test are needed to measure competency.

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WriterMom April 11, 2008


Point well taken bigguy, however, your assumption is wrong.

My son has passed tests many times over the years, and yes, he's well educated on the fact that in order to work in the real world, one may be required to take a test or two. (His father is a Code Enforcement Officer with the City of Fort Lauderdale, and his grandfather a police officer. Both men had to take a few tests to get to where they are.) We are both very much aware of this.

However, I disagree with you about tests being here to "stay." ESPECIALLY the FCAT. I just learned that because there has been so many complaints, that the state has issued an anonymous survey of not only the contents of the FCAT test, but also questions pertaining to the material that teachers actually "teach" the children to prepare them for this test, how much time it's actually taking away from their core studies, etc. Other questions on the survey pertain to stress levels and anxiety seniors feel over not graduating if results of the test don't meet the state's mandatory requirements.

For the record: As a writer & editor, I've often been given detailed writing tests that also include pages of editing errors as part of the hiring process prior to being employed in my profession.

I strive to not speak "negatively" to my son, but rather constructively, and in truth.

There are many certified "doctors" out there who have mistakenly amputated the wrong leg, or left surgical supplies inside of a sewn up body, and they all took "tests" at one point to become certified in their field. Does taking a test automatically make them "smart" and an expert in their field. I think not.

When I sought out a procedure 10 years ago, I surely did not walk into the doctor's office and ask to see if he was "certified" then sign on the dotted line. I researched many doctors for 5 years prior to having surgery. I later worked for a well known doctor that was famous for a specific type of procedure, and even HE said that to be "Board Certified" is nothing but a crock. ANYONE can take a TEST. It's what you do on a daily basis that proves how much you actually KNOW.





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WriterMom April 11, 2008


To the Parents of Greatschools.com:

Please tell your friends about this site, and invite them here to discuss their own personal stories of how the FCAT is affecting their child's academics, self-esteem, etc. With greatschools.com's permission, I will be forwarding these to Tallahassee as soon as I get 1000 posts on the subject. I truly believe we can BAN THE FCAT altogether, but it's going to take a multitude of parents in this state to get the politicians to listen. As I stated in an earlier post: the state has received enough calls and/or complaints to issue a survey to random schools so kids can fill them out anonymously. While we're waiting on the results of that one, we can hit them up again.

Thanks to the dreaded FCAT, kids are dropping out, becoming severely depressed, and missing out on the best times of their lives. We, as parents all need to unite on behalf of our children.

Thank you.

Tips on how to "pass the word":
Copy and paste this page's url info to your next email, or post a link on your "myspace" website or other site. It doesn't take long for word to spread on the web.


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WriterMom April 15, 2008


Standardized testing is not the problem. Nor is the act of taking a basic test. Kids are taught from grade one how to study and take a test. They are repeatedly tested all throughout their 12 years of schooling. Their days are filled with math tests, spelling tests, reading comprehension tests, science tests, geography tests, not to mention, mid-terms and final exams.

When my kids were in elementary school, they took the IOWA tests. High school tests have included both the ACT and the SAT. ALL of which are considered to be some form of "standardized testing." How much more do they honestly need? I write for a living, but yet I had problems with reading most of my elementary school years and was placed in special reading classes. I hated them, but at least I wasn't tested to death. It wasn't until I entered 8th grade, that my teacher noticed something...I happened to do VERY WELL in reading whenever it was a topic I was truly interested in. If it was boring or too technical, I lost all interest, and never did as well on a test. On a whim, he handed me a Nancy Drew book. I took it home, and read the entire book that night. BINGO. My reading comprehension not only did a complete turn-around, but my love of reading and writing soared.

I think it is abundantly clear to all kids by the time they reach high school, that tests are a part of life, and they know "how" to take a test. By the time students are mid-way through high school, they've been tested to death, and are mentally preparing themselves for the SATs (if they are college bound). NONE of which come with the threat of not graduating if they fail it. (like the FCAT does for seniors)

Several years ago, I worked for a real slimeball. He insisted that everyone be at his 8:30 meetings every Friday. Most of us would show up on time, but there were always 2 or 3 who were consistently late. This infuriated him, even if they showed up 2 minutes late. Finally, one Friday morning, he told me to take notes, and have that person's paycheck deducted for every minute they were late to his meeting. I looked right at him and told him, "You can't do that, it's illegal." He screamed at me to find some other way to make them "pay" for always being late, then he stormed out of the room in disgust. He could care less "why" they were late. His primary goal was to "punish" them for it.

I am in favor of banning the dreaded FCAT because I feel it is unfair to make a high school senior "pay" for not passing a stupid test by taking away his/her right to graduate. ESPECIALLY when they've already done 12 years of time.

My son and I have both had reading issues to overcome in school. Apparently we're doing something right: I've written for Disney, and Justin is the Editor-in-Chief of his school newspaper.

I am sure there are thousands of other kids out there who are also academic achievers. No one test should be the "cure-all, end-all" of a child's knowledge. Nor should it determine the fate of that child's future. We need to stop the state from punishing our kids before it's too late, and we end up with a future of hopeless drop-outs.






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WriterMom April 15, 2008


Wow..New Jersey is very strict. I keep hearing about more types of unbendable testing being done in other states. Did it ever occur to these test-making-junkies that some kids are just good at taking a test while others totally freeze up at the sight of one?? That being said, it has nothing to do with the content, but more so the physical ACT of taking a test because of the mandated consequences hanging over their heads. If I had to sit down to a test that I knew if I failed I'd not graduate, I'd be sweating bullets.

My generation never had to face such a brutal dilemma, so I don't think a lot of people realize what our kids are going through. I myself have had to take typing tests, proof-reading tests, etc., for some employers over the years. No, I've not passed every one, but at least I can go look for another job. What are seniors supposed to do? Do they really expect kids to say, "No big deal, I'll just graduate next year. Sign me up for the 5 year plan instead." ???

Failing the FCAT is one thing. FORBIDDING seniors from graduating who fail it causes them extreme anxiety, feelings of depression, uncertainty, & failure. Not to mention how demoralizing and stigmitized they must feel when they learn they won't be able to graduate with their friends. Physical ailments have included: headaches, nausea, vomiting, fever, stomach ache, diarrhea, sweats, nervousness, etc.
(Based on what my son and several of his friends have experienced)

You are ABSOLUTELY RIGHT: "One test does NOT measure someone's abilities."

Lawmakers have imposed a serious amount of stress and duress on young people today. Consequences of this magnitude should only be mandated in prisons, not in this country's school system.


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DeborahHamilto April 16, 2008


I agree with you,did school community say it's ok to send this and will it be mail?

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DeborahHamilto April 16, 2008


This fcat test should'nt be for getting a diploma going out of school, everybody is not going to college,that's just life.some kids are looking forward working,and some kids want to go to college. this test is not acomplishing nothing,so really they need to get rid of the tests.

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WriterMom April 16, 2008


Attention ALL FLORIDA RESIDENT- PARENTS...

Are you a Florida resident parent of a child dealing with the constant negative effects of the FCAT? Have you been told that your son or daughter will be retained if they don't pass the FCAT? Is your child's high school years full of anxiety and stress because they've been told they WILL NOT GRADUATE if they fail any portion of the dreaded FCAT?? Would you like to see the FCAT banned for good?

If you've answered "yes" to any of these questions, then here's your chance to speak up about it.

I have received permission from this site to use all of the posts here, but I need your help.

If you are a FLORIDA RESIDENT and would like to post a comment here, please double space after your last sentence and include the following information:

-I am a FLORIDA resident.
-Name of the county your child's school is in
-Your child's grade level

I am asking for the above info mainly to show state officials that these are not phantam posts, but from real parents of real students living in Florida.

Once a substantial amount of posts are logged on this topic I'm going to be sending them all to Tallahassee, as well as superintendents of schools, school boards, local newspapers as well as targeted media.

PLEASE pass this page's url link to your friends and anyone else you know who's battling any FCAT issues.

url link: http://community.greatschools.net/advice/129/The-Dreaded-FCAT---it-s-secretly-causing-the-demise-of-our-children-?cpage=6&cpn=Com_ImmediateNote#comment_170510

Grab this link and post it inside your emails, or attach it to your "myspace" or "facebook" pages. We need ample feedback from other Florida resident parents so we can be heard.

Thank you.



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