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The Dreaded FCAT is secretly causing the demise of our children. (FLA PARENTS)


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WriterMom April 16, 2008


I would be in total favor of banning the FCAT FOREVER if I could find someone to give me a dotted line to sign on.


My son has repeatedly failed the reading part of this moronic test, and now has to retake it yet AGAIN in 2 months. I refer to it as "moronic" because it's only purpose is to grade an entire school based on where 10th graders are at academically.  I fail to see the purpose of it when all I have seen is how much it stresses out my son every year. TWICE he has "almost" passed it. Once, by only 1 point. When I asked him why it's so hard to take, he said that the reading test doesn't have ANYTHING TO DO WITH what's being taught or has been taught to him in an actual classroom. Even though he said he purposefully studied for the reading test the last time he took it, and "guessed" at the math part. Ironically, he passed the math section with flying colors, only to fail the reading segment, yet again. Every year, he waits with shear dread for the results.


I never did well with reading comprehension "tests" either when I was in school. In fact, I was forced to take extra credit reading classes to help boost my grade point average so I would pass. It was humiliating, and always very stressful. I went through 12 years of school being scolded by my parents because my teachers labeled me as one who "would not apply myself." It didn't seem to matter that I always aced English, or that I excelled in other classes.  The one I always failed at got me in trouble.


Again, I call the FCAT "MORONIC" because I now write for a living, and my son is the Editor-in-Chief of his school newspaper. I am 46 years old, and never went to college for journalism, but yet I am a published author and smart enough to write for Disney.


Once my son became Editor-in-Chief of his high school newspaper, he decided to put his literary power to use.  He researched other school related academic achievements of hundreds of students, and wrote about it.  He made the "D" Stigma, (his school’s been given), on the cover page as well as the center spread, noting that being labeled a "D" school due to the FCAT scores does not make one a "D" student by any means.


He was called to the principal's office upon distribution, and thought he would receive a reprimand. Instead, the principal congratulated him on his story, and the truth behind it.


Just recently, he realized that the FCAT test is in April. His face lost all color when he said he hopes that the FCATs aren't going to be the same week as the Journalism State Competition in Tampa, or else, "I'll just kill myself." I was stunned, because my son never talks this way.


He has been preparing all year for this competition, and even paid his deposit on the trip. He'll be giving up Grad Night just so he can attend this event. It absolutely horrified me to hear him talk this way. 


Whatever "genius" thought up this asinine test needs to have his head examined. It's doing our kids more HARM than GOOD.  Since its birth, the FCAT has only had negative repercussions. It makes high school students feel bad about themselves if their school is labeled anything but an “A” school. If your school falls to an “F” it risks being closed down. (Like many here in south Florida). Thus, kids who hoped to graduate with their friends are displaced throughout an entire county, and/or waiting placement.


Failing FCAT causes low self esteem amongst students and their peers that may lead to depression, anxiety, and even a sense of hopelessness. Uncertain future comes into play for college bound students since their graduation is no longer secured by class work alone. I’ve been told that the higher the overall grade for the school, the more funding they receive from the state. Shouldn’t it be the other way around?? After all, wouldn’t we as parents and teachers run to the aide of a failing student before offering assistance to an “A” student? 


What message is this sending to our kids by constantly placing negative labels on them and their school?  Do school officials honestly expect THIS to improve school spirit? Do they expect THIS to boost student morale?  My son was awarded "A Honor Roll" last semester, with a GPA of 4.0. I can remember my high school years being some of the best times of my life, and I never had a GPA of 4.0. However, my son cannot say the same. He's been told that if he does not pass the FCAT this time around, he will not graduate. This, they're saying to a kid who has over 800 service hours, whereas, only 40 are required by end of senior year.   It won't  matter that he's an "A" student. If he fails the reading again, he'll be labeled a failure. Period. 


I rest my case.


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reallygoodmom February 21, 2013


My son told me that he hasn't learned anything in school since the 5th grade other than how to take a test.

I am a FLORIDA resident.
my child's school is in Palm Beach County
10th & 11th grade

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Jennie64 August 10, 2009


I totally agree with all the FCAT haters here. Its a part of the reason my son is now in private school. But please don't blame the teachers and call for them to be replaced if they can't pass the test. Most of the teachers I was in contact with while my son was in public school hated the test as much as we all do.

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emyers June 18, 2009


I understand completely about your situation. My daughter has been fighting the FCAT battle in math and I am proud to say she improved her score by 120 points and passed. This sounds great right? But the pressure she was put under was to the detriment of all her other grades. I mean who has time to study other subjects when you are killing yourself studying and fretting over FCAT. My daughter doubled up on her math classes as well as having tutoring after school and virtual school. All her A classes fell to B classes and her grade point dropped by one whole point , but hey-she passed her FCAT! big whoop, what does that prove. Now I am sure she will bring her grade point back up this coming year and now all we have to do is worry about science FCAT. Wonder if she will have to sacrafice anything else. She already is unable to get her English major because of the math requirements (she will be 1 credit shy)which means summer school or more virtual school. They already require more than the class slots allow. Now with the addition of more math requirements for incoming freshman about the only major you can finish is math. I'm sure you are a good student and have interests and abilities. Too bad it is so hard for the Florida system to understand this.

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mom2all June 1, 2009


I agree with the proud parent of the 4.0 how can a failing FCAT determine if you graduate or not ? How many of the teachers can pass the test? If you want to fail any child because of the failing grade on the test then I think you should make all of the teachers in the state take it and if they don't pass it then replace them with someone who can. Now I bet the state will look at the test a whole new way.. My child is also a 4.0 student but whos to say he would even pass the test. I don't know . So are you telling me if a child receives all failing grades he or she could possibly pass the Fcat and then pass on to the next grade. Because that should be the case since an all A student could fail the fcat and not graduate then that should stand as well. I guess we won't be relocating to Florida afterall. Thanks for the headsup , and good luck with your smart child he is not a failure.

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2ndtimeMom May 27, 2009


There was an earlier post that the ACT can override the FCAT. Why don't you look into that? It may be a little late but go ahead and look into it. It costs like $40 and you can take it on a Saturday. The exact same thing happened to my daughter and if i had that information, she would have graduated with her class.

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LydiaS May 26, 2009


I am a mother of two wonderful girls that always got A's and B's Outstanding and at grade level, And today I receive a shock news from one of my girls teacher that my daughter may be held in 3rd grade for failing this FCATs test. My daughter right the minute they notified them about this she start to cry until at 9:pm she finally fall asleep. Her self esteem drop immediate. And she ask me the most interesting question, Why do I have to get good grade and do a lot of hard work if I'm not going to go to 4th grade with my friends? Now what do you tell a girl that she gives everything to have always good grades that the System of Education sees her like a failure because she didn't't pass her FCAT's.

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KathlynRivera April 3, 2009


i am not really a mother, i am a student. i have been desperately seeking moral support for myself in order to feel better about this situation. nobody would ever understand unless put in the same position as we students are put into every year until we "graduate". I just moved from Puerto Rico, a spanish speaking country. i moved in mid june. ony to find myself with this. i am currently a senior at timber creek high school. to tell you something rather uncomfortable, my first language is obviously spanish. and i passed the reading FCAT, yet miserably failed the Math. I had to retake it this March and i am supposed to graduate in May. the weeks before taking the test, i was miserable. and to me, thinking that i came here to seek a better education and future and that it is depending on this test is not fair. my school is an "A" school, but to tell you the truth, it should be the staff who should be graded. i came in to matriculate on the very first day of school and they told me i had all the credits i needed. to this day i have 25 credits, needing only 24 to graduate. but you know something? my counselor, recognized my name when i gave her my FCAT test sheet because i had finished it. i had never met her before. she told me she needed to talk to me about some issue with the credits and whatnot. the day i went to talk to her she told me that i needed one science credit to graduate. why didn't they put me in a science class since the beggining? why is it my fault? why do they tell me now? now that school is almost over? these people have crushed my goals and dreams.

I believe i need to do some grading myself.
Timber Creek HS gets an F from me.

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emyers November 17, 2008


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that we want. Additionally, please FORWARD this message to your friends
and colleagues who are also concerned about the future of public education.
Thank you!
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emyers October 15, 2008


TUTORING COMPANIES WILL BE GRADED BASED ON STUDENT SUCCESS IN FCAT
South Florida Sun-Sentinel -- October 10, 2008
By Kathy Bushouse

For the first time next year, state officials will grade private
companies charged with improving students' grades.

Starting March 1, the state Department of Education will issue grades to
tutoring companies that provide extra help to low-income students so
they perform better on the Florida Comprehensive Assessment Test.

Much like schools' grades from the state are based on students' FCAT
performance, the state will issue grades to the tutoring companies based
on their clients' test scores. The better they score, and the more
progress they show, the higher the grade.

Proponents say the grades will help parents choose which state-approved
tutoring company could best help their child, and will help school
districts evaluate providers. The state Legislature passed the new grade
requirements during the 2008 session, and Gov. Charlie Crist signed it
into law in June.

With scores of providers to choose from -- 107 in Broward and 70 in Palm
Beach County -- the grades will help school districts show parents the
difference between companies, said Terry Pitchford, manager of
supplemental educational services for the Palm Beach County School District.

"There's a huge variation in the types of services provided, and a big
variation in the cost," Pitchford said. "We've never been able to say,
'This one's been more effective at creating learning gains than the other.'"

Just what criteria the state Department of Education will use to issue
those grades is unclear. Officials are reviewing student performance
data from 2007 and 2008 to determine tutoring companies' grades, a
department spokeswoman said.

More than 6,400 Broward students and 5,800 Palm Beach County students
are expected this year to take advantage of extra help under the federal
No Child Left Behind Act that aims to raise reading and math skills.

Schools are required to offer free tutoring if they receive federal
money but don't show progress under the accountability act. The only
students who can sign up for free tutors are those who qualify for free
or reduced-price lunch. Priority is given to struggling students.

Companies working in Broward County receive up to $1,405 per student for
tutoring services. In Palm Beach County, companies receive up to $1,305
per student. The professional tutoring companies receive federal money
that otherwise would go to the district to use in its poorer schools,
also called Title 1 schools.

The federal act requires states to measure the effectiveness of
supplemental educational service providers, though the law does not
require states to give providers actual grades.

Tutoring company officials say they're ready for the grades, but some
question whether parents will really use them or understand what they're
reading.

"I don't think it's going to make that much difference to the parents,"
said Minnie Campfield, owner of T&T Learning Center in Pompano Beach,
which tutors students at five Broward elementary schools. "Our struggle
is getting the parents to come in, and they don't have the time."

Some tutoring company leaders say they still don't know how they'll be
graded, and wonder whether the grades might change how tutors do business.

Say a student is tutored for 29 hours in reading and one hour in math,
but the state weighs both subjects equally to grade a tutoring company's
work with that student. If that student performs poorly on math, "it's
going to show up in your grade," said Berry Lamy, director of operations
for A++ at JFK Tutoring, a North Lauderdale-based company that serves 25
school districts throughout Florida.

Still, Lamy said he supports the principle behind the grades.

"It's no different than the schools being graded," he said. "The
parents, they'll be able to know which providers are doing a good job,
just as if they'd be able to know which schools were A-rated."

http://sun-sentinel.com/news/schools/sfl-flbtutor1010sboct10,0,4310705.story

How stupid is this-
1. We assume teachers can't assess a student without a test
2. If the parents and student doesn't care, why should we?
3.More of our tax money going to underpriviledged students when middle income students could also benefit from free tutoring.
4.Let the parents pick the tutors based on test scores? Higher score easier test, Duh!

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emyers October 6, 2008


The Florida School system in all it's wisdom is currently testing something which they feel will solve the dilhema of the FCAT test. They are using an early warning reading assesment test to help teachers point out which students will be best suited for FCAT. That's right folks, they may soon be giving students an assesment test to see if students can pass the assesment test! This should be so much better- I'm glad someone thought of this. Florida just doesn't have a clue. If your child's teacher can't tell which of her students have reading problems then she's got no business teaching. Does the administration think so little of its teachers?



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