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WE NEED TO DO ALL WE CAN TO GET RID OF THE FCAT


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DeborahHamilto March 17, 2008


I don't believe in my Gov. here in the STATE OF FL. They say one thing and do another. The FCAT is unbelieveable. I BELIEVE THE FCAT WAS MADE TO HURT OUR CHILDERN, DISCOURAGE OUR STUDENTS, AND TO KEEP THEM FROM GOING FOWARD .  IT'S A LOT OF OLDER PEOPLE NEED TO GET OUT OF THE WAY IN THESE OFFICES, AND JOBS. THEY REALLY NEED TO RETIRE, SO OUR YOUNGER CHILDREN CAN GET OUT OF SCHOOL AND GET A JOB TO SUPPORT THEIR FAMILIES. THAT'S WHY A LOT OF OUR KIDS FALLING OUT OF SCHOOL. WE NEED TO TRAIN OUR STUDENTS. WE HAVE A LOT OF GOOD STUDENTS THAT WANT TO MAKE IT, BUT THAT FCAT IS HOLDING THEM BACK.  THIS IS MY PERSONNAL FEELINGS ABOUT THE FCAT.


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DeborahHamilto March 17, 2008


I AGREE 100%

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michellea March 18, 2008


My children have not experienced the FCAT, but they have taken the MCAS - the Massachusetts curriculum test.

While I do not agree with the high stakes aspect of FCAT (or MCAS in HS), the idea of a curriculum based test to monitor how well a school is teaching all students is a good thing.

If a school is not providing adequate instruction to bring all groups of children to grade level - they are not doing their job. While standardized testing is not ideal for all kids, it is designed to get a good read on the skill level of students against grade level standards. This drives accountablity.

NCLB requires that scores be disagregated by groups - learning diablied, minorities, income. This also drives accountablity. No longer can schools hide behind overall adequate scores when the scores of the subgroups are failing.

FCAT pinpoints where the schools need to improve instuction. If students are failing, schools are held accountable to improve.

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Anonymous March 18, 2008


We need to get rid of the FCAT now. Our kids need to learn everything on a daily basic. With FCAT you are stopping from learning what they are suppose to learm. Please lets get rid of the FCAT.

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DeborahHamilto March 19, 2008


I FEEL THAT MOST OF THE SCHOOL ARE DOING A GREAT JOB IN TEACHING OUR STUDENTS. BUT WE HAVE A, B, HONOR ROLL STUDENTS THAT'S NOT PASSING THIS TEST. AND WE HAVE F, STUDENTS PASSING THE TEST. EXPLAIN THAT TO ME AND OTHER PARENTS.

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michellea March 20, 2008


If honor roll students are not passing the test, I think the FCAT is doing a good job in raising a red flag that there are issues with the district''s curriculum and or grading system.

The idea behind the state testing is to find out if the schools are successful teaching the skills and knowledges mandated for each grade level. When students earn good grades, but can't pass the test, there is some sort of disconnect. Maybe the school is not teaching the curriculum. Maybe the school is not employing good teaching techniques and therefore the kids aren't learning. The testing gives the school a report card on how they are doing in teaching the kids specific skills.

As far as kids that get F's and pass the test - I'd like to see some hard data on this. While I don't doubt that some very skilled but unmotivated students may have the ability to pass state testing, but choose not to apply themselves in school, my guess is that this is the exception not the rule.

Keep in mind - the test is meant to hold SCHOOLs accountable for doing their job and doing it effectively. If they can't produce students that can do grade level work as measured by the test, it's important that parents have this information.

Rather than putting pressure on the govenor to remove the test, I'd put preasure on the school board to improve the schools and the way they teach grade level material.

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DeborahHamilto March 20, 2008


I understand what you are saying, and when I say this I am not being smart at all. This is what I see, teachers already got their education the students are the ones that are taking the test and not passing it, and they can't get their diploma untill they do. There are a lot of students can read.they are excellent readers my child is one. she started doing geometry in the eight grade and is very good, but when she takes the fcat she freez up . answer this for me. A, B, honor roll student did not pass the fcat why? I know my child teacher is teaching her right, my child teacher does target and help my child. my child does the fcat explorer.com three times a week for her teacher. tell me whats the problem. and I know for a fact that some students makes f and sleep in class and have pass the fcat. Ask your friends children, or ask a teacher who teaches the fcat. they know.

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2gr8lilgirls March 20, 2008


When do students have to pass the FCAT grade 10 to receive a full diploma? Has the state been phasing in requirements? It is my understanding an ACT score of 15 will be accepted in lieu of FCAT, after 3 unsuccessful challenges.

I am a strong proponent of grade level standards, and disaggregated performance requirements to ensure all groups receive the attention needed to bring all to grade level.

I understand many may suffer from test anxiety, which needs to be addressed to assist the students to overcome the fears. If the interventions to overcome testing challenges are not sucessful, other special testing accommodations need to be sought.

If the testing standards are out of line, that needs to be addressed, but the answer is not to throw out the testing.

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michellea March 21, 2008


Thanks for saying it so well.

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2gr8lilgirls March 21, 2008


Could you indicate the specific school district you are concerned about. I would like to review their statistics on the Florida Department of Education's web site.

Florida ranks very high in that Nation on Standardized testing; if I lived in Florida and my school district was struggling, I would be using the data to demand changes.

Has your child used the review materials avilable to prepare for the test. This would be a way you could help determine your childs specific areas of concern; this would allow you to focus your study in areas they may need additional assistance from home and/or the school.

If test anxiety is an issue, practice tests should help your child become more comfortable with the information, as well as the testing process.

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DeborahHamilto March 24, 2008


I still say the fcat is not needed in our schools in the State Of Fl.



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