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By Carol Lloyd

Grim children's literature since Grimm

But isn’t literature different? There’s little scientific study about the effects of violent books, perhaps in part because they are nothing new. As long as there has been children’s literature, there have been violent stories. One need only revisit the original Grimm fairytales or Aesop’s fables to fill up on grisly scenes of death and mayhem, all presumably crafted with a didactic purpose. There’s a rational argument that violence in children’s literature (and even other media) exposes children in a safe (and ideally instructive) manner to the violence that exists in the world and the dark realities they’ll face in adulthood. YA novelist Julie Hahnke offers a guide in assessing the violence in children’s literature  via four criteria: is the violence necessary, age-appropriate, not overly graphic, and do the main characters respond to it appropriately (shocked or appalled, not enthusiastic or casual)? In this context, The Hunger Games passes on the 1st and 4th of these, but not on the 2nd and 3rd.

Blaming any medium for the wholesale creation of societal ills is tough to argue. Logically, by extension, most Nordic countries — where there’s scant real violent crime but little censorship of the media — would be far more crime-ridden. On the other hand, even those who oppose censorship in their own children’s media diets have their limits. Few parents will show their five-year-olds Texas Chainsaw Massacre, no matter how leery they are about the effects of violent media on a child’s brain.

In the end, there’s no single right answer applicable to all ages or all children, but it’s worth looking at what your children are reading because even the school-assigned texts may be a far cry from the books that populated your childhood. In discussions of The Hunger Games, conversations revolve around whether the book is too violent for teens. But from my experience, it is being read by far younger kids. My daughter was introduced to the series when her sixth grade teacher read it aloud. And I recently read about a fourth grade teacher reading it aloud to his class, too. But concerned parents proceed with caution: the defenders of Panem are fervent.

On a Scholastic (also the publisher) forum discussing a mother who tried in vain to get The Hunger Games removed from her daughter’s middle school curriculum, dozens of commenters from Team Hunger seethed like angry trackerjackers. “I want to strangle that lady!” one devotee writes. Other fans attempted to prevent the argument from self-combusting: “I would just like to mention that saying you'd like to kill [the mother] isn't the best way of convincing her we're not being desensitized." Good point.

“You don’t like the violence Mommy?” That glassy-eyed question paralyzed me for a moment, but then I quickly saw that somewhere beyond those dilated eyes was my daughter, who wanted a real answer connected to a real conversation (from her Mommy no less). What could have been a moment of alienation for both of us turned into an opportunity — to talk and disagree and talk some more. And the value of that I don’t need any studies to understand.

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is the executive editor of GreatSchools and mother to two raucous daughters, ages 9 and 13.

Comments from readers

"Adults making kids kill kids, and then enjoying watching the killing take place. When I saw the movie I was mortified. And the fact that this messed up, disgusting storyline is marketed to children is absolutely wrong in so many ways, no matter what underlying themes one can uncover. There have got to be better things we can be filling our children's minds with! "
"No I love the hunger games myself. Katniss is not trying to be violent she is just what she says " A piece in thier games" she doesnt want to be in the hunger games but she doesn't have a choice. Also Katniss only kills 1 person and that is only because he kills her Allie Rue. Don't you dare talk bad about that best-steeling book cuz ur out numbered! "
"I love The Hunger Games.And if you actually read the books and think it through it is more then killing one and other.Katniss is a great role-moldel for young girls like myself.She was the first to volunteer in District 12 alone.Katniss tells the readers that you should stand up in what you believe in and not letting people control your life.And she is much much better then Bella.And Jen is amazing as well.If you give the books a change you will get what I'm saying here.I mean it takes someone that brave to voulnteer for her little sister.<3 "
"YES!!! "
"Actually, there is one part of this article that is wrong. For the four criteria: 1. is the violence necessary 2. age-appropriate 3. overly graphic 4. do the main characters respond to it appropriately? The Hunger Games fits all of these criteria. The violence is not overly graphic, but is realistic. The book does not have pages upon pages of blood and gore, rather the violence is an after effect of people's choices. There's no Hostel or Saw in this book. And the book is age-appropriate. It is rated young adult. That generally means the age of 14-17. If the book was not age appropriate for your daughter (who is 12), it might mean she is not age appropriate for the book, not the other way around. In the end, The Hunger Games is encouraging reading AND without the profanity and sexuality that is prevalent even in school assigned reading now (really quite shameful), and with violence that delivers a message that is worthwhile. "
"i allowed my daughter to read it because she doesn't like to read but i am ok with it. "
"Thank God! Someone else is concerned about this violent series for children. I thought the entire world had gone brain-dead. You did a lot better than I did with the discussion with your child. When my 15 year old told me she wanted to watch the movie, and I read about some of the scenes, such as a little child being thrown against a wall until her neck broke, etc., I told her if she wanted to pay money to watch children killing children, we had failed as parents. I hope we can have a close conversation like you had with your daughter eventually. "
"First - for the person who compared the title to "rape".. you are an idiot. The title speaks to those in the know about the Hunger Games, as REAPING is the even where the children are chosen to participate in the Games. Next, I totally see why this world is going to fail, with parents like these in charge. Really, no tv? No video games? Complete censorship! I am a 20-something mom. I grew up with Harry Potter, I've read the Twilight series twice, and fell in love with the Hunger Games trilogy when the books began to come out. My 11 year old cousin is reading the series right now, and loves it as well. What is so wrong with exposing our kids to stories? Yes, it is a YA level, however the GENRE is dystopian! Personally, I love dystopian books so this is right up my ally (Along w/ the faith based series Matched!... but even with Faith I guess you hovering moms would take issue because GASP it's not all rainbows and butterflies). The point is, your kids are going to grow up, and either they enter our world as well-rounded human beings with the ability to enjoy being lost in a fantasy book (my favorite escape!) OR they have no idea how to live and participate because you censor every aspect of their formative years. Let kids be kids.... You can't control what they like!! Mom of 3 "
"I think a big factor missing from this discussion is whether or not the violence is condoned or celebrated. I have no doubt that violent games like Grand Theft Auto probably further violent attitudes in children by rewarding them for violence. The entire point of the book is how sickening The Hunger Games are, to miss that is to miss the point. To downplay the violence and make it "age appropriate" or "consumable" would be an even worse strategy in my opinion - that only teaches false outcomes to children, trivializing violence and suffering. While I think there is definitely an age where you are too young to read this series, it's certainly appropriate for young teens in my opinion, or children who have the maturity to understand meaning beyond plot. Helicopter parenting does no benefit to your child, they enter the real world one day or another and shielding them from reality is a great way to make sure the end up uninformed and locked in a suburban American view of the w! orld. "
"I am a teenage girl who is going into high school. I have read Haryy Potter books since third grade. Personally, I did *NOT* find the Hunger Games discussing or gruesome. The books are pretty well written, but not as disturbing as other books I have read. However, since I am an avid reader, I have seen some pretty messed up books(such as books that describe child slaves/prostitution, child armies, mutilation.) I do agree though that it is at the parents discretion to choose what is appropriate for the child, but please, just because you think the book is gruesome, it doesn't mean it is gruesome to your child. Before deciding to let your child read this book, you should judge their maturity on how you think they would react to some of the situations portrayed in the Hunger Games/Twilight/Harry Potter. "
"I understand the concern that violence in the media can desensitize young people to actual violence. However, I disagree strongly that The Hunger Games somehow glorifies violence. My 12-year-old is a very thoughtful reader who reads a wide variety of fiction. She reads discerningly and has a keen sense of when a book has content worth absorbing and when a book is merely a gimmick. Twilight for example held no interest for her. She and I read To Kill a Mockingbird together and she found it exceedingly interesting. She resisted The Hunger Games initially because the premise sounded troubling, but when she decided to read the book, she was drawn to the strength and emotional complexity of Katniss. My reading of the psychological literature is that there are benefits to children who live in safe environments to experience "fear" through literature and even movies to develop the emotional tools to recover. The world will bring them actual challenges at some point; our jo! b as parents is to help them develop the capacity for empathy and strength. I think The Hunger Games does both. My daughter suggests that The Hunger Games makes violence and governmental control terrifying and certainly not glamorous because characters she cared about are harmed. This is not to say that all children are emotionally ready at a particular age - but I don't think we do our children any favors by shielding them from intense emotions and experiences through books and movies. "
"The Hunger Games is NOT a reality TV show! It's to remind them of the sacrifices they made. They just happened to be on live TV. "
"Wow, this is the most paranoid article I have ever read. Ladies and Gentlemen, I've read young adult books ever since second grade, and I was the college valedictorian of my graduating class. I'm seriously fed up with strict, unrelenting adults unlike myself. Yes, I may sound impolite here, but unless your child isn't smart enough to realize there is a difference between reality and fiction - that's your problem. THE END "
"Very interesting article! I'm most interested in how young children are now reading books written for older teens, and how that's now expected, even ok. My daughter is in fifth grade. Only a few of her friends were reading Twilight/seeing the movie last year. This year, most of her classmates have read the book. I've read descriptions of the violence, and I just don't get it. Why is this appropriate for a 10 year old? I think sometimes that just because "at least they're reading" isn't good enough. I know my daughter is too tenderhearted to read this book, but I've agreed to let her read the first chapter or two to decide for herself. She will not be seeing the movie. I'M too scared to see the movie! "
"I can't help but wonder what Dr. Seuss -- or Dante -- might have to say, were they to speak about the 'low-hanging-fruit' phenomena that is associated with the motivation to create and execute this particular sort of marketing gimmick. "
"I read many of the books my precocious 11 year old reads. It gives us a basis to have deep discussions on life that she feels safe relating to. I read the entire series and thought that it was a wonderfully written good story, however, I would never let the 11 year old read this book. Too disturbing. I did recommend that my 15 year old read the book and we had some pretty deep discussions that the book opened up for us. The designation of young adult book seems too broad. I think young adult needs to be renamed YA -preteen, YA and YA - mature. I would put The Hunger Games Series into the middle category. "
"I agreee with this article. The book is an intense and unnecessarily violent read for young teens. Very disturbing read for me as an adult! The premise of teens not only trying to survive but some actually getting joy out of killing each other in the most gruesome manner is appalling!! Not my idea of a great piece of literature. "
"I have two children 8 and 10..They have not seen/nor read Harry Potter, Twilight, Lion King and have no desire to see nor read "The Hunger Games". For me "The Hunger Games" reminds me of "The Lottery", pop cult fiction back in my day. ....They are missing being trauamtized, I think..Nothing else...Is it worth it??/ I think not??? Thank you for validating my supporting my children in not wanting to see or read movies about violence. "
"I have two children 8 and 10..They have not seen/nor read Harry Potter, Twilight, Lion King and have no desire to see nor read "The Hunger Games". For me "The Hunger Games" reminds me of "The Lottery", pop cult fiction back in my day. ....They are missing being trauamtized, I think..Nothing else...Is it worth it??/ I think not??? Thank you for validating my supporting my children in not wanting to see or read movies about violence. "
"My daughter was given a copy of The Hunger Games for her 11th birthday. She is very well read and normally devours books. But after trying to read this book which she didn't like, yet all her friends are pressuring her to finish. She seems to be on a loop of re reading comforting books like The Penderwicks. I can't seem to get her to try anything new. I am a bit mad at The Hunger Games and will not let her go see the movie, which I don't think she wants to see, but her friends will try to get her to go. I pointed out to her friends, why would you want to see something like Nazi concentration camps for entertainment???? My daughter is reading about WWII in school with the book Step on The Cracks. I think the Hunger Games has killed her zest for books! Tomorrow, I'll take her to the library to hopefully have her find a new book, but why does media and so many books in school, make reading no fun???? I completely agree with Carol Loyd's article. "
"After reading this article my 15 year old daughter has an observation to make. "I don't think a 12 year old should be reading the Hunger Games series. It's clearly not for anyone under 14, and I don't think you should be judging the books as only about gory violence. It's more complex than her description gives. Maybe that mother should read the books before her daughter does so she can decide if they are books her daughter can handle. Don't criticize the books for a bad decision the mother made." "
"We opted at our home to not read it. My 10 year old's suggestion was for me to read it first, then decide. I'm *really* not into the adults-reading-kids-lit scene, and this storyline doesn't interest me in the least. Hopefully in a few years when she revisits it, she'll decide if she's ready or not. Definitely not now. "
"I know you are trying to be clever but the title crosses the line. Puns on rape are not funny and make it hard to overlook and focus on the article. "
"really,the message behing the violence is just that...look deeper, author. THisis anti war anti reality tv, promoting what is good in us, standing up for family and being an independent thinker....ohhhh I guess too danergous and violent for you..gag. "